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Off-Topic Forums => General Off-Topic Discussion => Topic started by: Note on April 11, 2012, 05:41:11 PM
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So I'm building my own custom PC for the first time and have alll the parts picked out, the only help I need is input on if all these parts are compatible.
Tower: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008&Tpk=Corsair%20Carbide%20400R (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139008&Tpk=Corsair%20Carbide%20400R)
CD/DVD Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16827106276)
Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813131795)
GPU: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814102908)
Power Supply: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&Tpk=Corsair%20CX500%20V2%2080%2b%20Certified (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139027&Tpk=Corsair%20CX500%20V2%2080%2b%20Certified)
Processor: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996&Tpk=AMD%20FX%20Zambezi%203.6GHz%20%283.8GHz%20Turbo%29%20Quad%20Core (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819103996&Tpk=AMD%20FX%20Zambezi%203.6GHz%20%283.8GHz%20Turbo%29%20Quad%20Core)
RAM: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16820231426)
HDD: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822148767)
OS: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16832116986)
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Give me a minute and I will check it all for you. I build computers often, and used to run a business doing it lol.
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you should have no compatibilty issues. but if i may make a few suggestions.
if you can afford it. i would highly suggest going with this 650w PS rather than a 500w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005)
and a couple extra 120mm case fans. you can mount the on the side of that case, and have them blow in to shoot cool air on the board to keep it running at peak.
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Ok cool thanks for the help, and if I do all the mail in rebates and can get some discounts I may be able to get the 650 instead of the 500.
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Np, if you need anything else feel free to PM me. i should be able to help with any thing you need.
also if this is your first time ordering from Newegg they have a code for %10 off your first order with them
@Dragn I got a 1000w single rail CoolMax, running none stop for a year now pulling 855w~ consistant no issues.
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Oh! Sweet what's the code?
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IIRC its "NEWCUSTOMER10"
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you should have no compatibilty issues. but if i may make a few suggestions.
if you can afford it. i would highly suggest going with this 650w PS rather than a 500w
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817139005)
and a couple extra 120mm case fans. you can mount the on the side of that case, and have them blow in to shoot cool air on the board to keep it running at peak.
So would these work? http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200049 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835200049)
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yep, should
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Hard Drive sucks for the price. SATA 6Gbps is somewhat moot with a 7200rpm drive with a 16mb cache (actually completely moot in your case since you don't have any 6Gbps ports). Another $15 with get you twice the capacity and 4x the cache. If you are wanting better performance get an SSD or at least a Momentus XT ($110 for the original, slower 500Gb or $170 for the new 750Gb). For an extra $20 you can get a GTX 560 which is a faster card (or $30 for a 6870 if you are set on AMD). I'd also go with an 880G or 970 (which would get you the 6Gbps SATA) based board rather than 760G. I've also had much better experiences with MSI in recent years than Asus.
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Well this is going to be my first build so I'm satisfied with what I have picked out right now plus I've pretty much reached my spending limit, but I'll take what you have said into mind.
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Hard Drive sucks for the price. SATA 6Gbps is somewhat moot with a 7200rpm drive with a 16mb cache (actually completely moot in your case since you don't have any 6Gbps ports). Another $15 with get you twice the capacity and 4x the cache. If you are wanting better performance get an SSD or at least a Momentus XT ($110 for the original, slower 500Gb or $170 for the new 750Gb). For an extra $20 you can get a GTX 560 which is a faster card (or $30 for a 6870 if you are set on AMD). I'd also go with an 880G or 970 (which would get you the 6Gbps SATA) based board rather than 760G. I've also had much better experiences with MSI in recent years than Asus.
I agree 100%, I didnt want to tell him all that because I assumed he didnt have much to spend. and was pretty set.
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We are talking about $30-$45 (~5%) on a $700 build (I'm assuming you already have keyboard, mouse, monitor since there's no mention of them). The above mentioned coupon code covers that and then some. Being that it's your first build, that's all the more reason to consider advise from much more experienced people. Having to ask if parts are compatible because you don't know (which I don't mean as an insult) and then disregarding recommendations is kinda silly. I've built every thing from $500 bargain builds to $100k server racks. I'm all about building efficiently. Buying the most expensive parts are never worth it, but buying excessively cheap parts is equally bad. Buying a significantly slower part to save $20 is just shooting yourself in the foot.
I can understand there's money concerns but when building a computer you also need to be realistic. $40 is one mag for a GBB or 2-3 mags of BB's. Not to mention some of my recommendations aren't even talking about spending more money. You can't use the extra speed of the 6Gbps SATA on the board you picked out but are paying a premium to get a drive that supports it. You can get an otherwise identical 3Gbps SATA drive for cheaper. I mentioned the other drives purely as a performance recommendation. The 880G boards can be had for the same price as the 760G. The 970's are pretty close on price as well.
Being on a budget makes good first purchases all the more important.
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On a side note I take no offense, to be honest my build is based off of someone elses so all reccomendations are appreciated and I have minimal to no knowledge on computer parts so Im somewhat lost in what your saying. I realize I can get a better motherboard and graphics card for 15-30 dollars or so more. I'll go back and switch out some of the parts based on your reccomendations and be back to post them on here. I'm going to have a few questions on some of the parts so I'll edit the list tommorow.
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Motherboard: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186205 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16813186205)
Hard Drive: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236080 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16822236080) (Has $15 off promo)
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130685 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130685) (EVGA's warrenty/service is worth the couple of extra dollars. Plus it's pre-overclocked)
Video Card: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660 (http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814130660) (Non-overclocked model, $10 cheaper)
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I have mixed feelings about the motherboard the reviews seem to be in between and are those video cards better then the one I had listed? Apoligies if these seem like ignorant questions.
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both those graphic cards are better then the one you listed. but i would pass on "foxconn" MB last time i saw a "foxconn" in a rig it was crashing hard with mobo failure.
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Yeah, either video card is a step up from the one you listed.
The primary "issue" on that motherboard is that the manual was printed wrong and the clear CMOS jumper MAY be in the wrong position. Stupid to be sure, but beyond that there doesn't seem to be any complaints about the hardware and the price is good. As long as you are aware of that up front, no big deal. Sadly, as with all things China made quality is hit or miss. I've had boards that have issues with multiple RAID controllers being active at once (Asus), Faulty Driver CD (MSI), and missing RAID drivers (Tyan). When I'm motherboard shopping, I'm looking a features and hardware reliability. Missing/Faulty drivers are an annoyance but easily resolved by downloading the proper ones. Misprinted manuals can be a bigger issue, but typically a corrected one is available online by the time you have the board in hand. EVGA is the only brand that I've NEVER had any issue with which is why I say their GPU's are worth the few extra $. If you were doing an Intel build, I'd recommend them for the mobo as well.
Southbridge fans that burn out quickly or RAID controllers you can't boot from are issue that you can't work around. I didn't see any mention of issues like that on that mobo so I'd say you should be good to go on that. Foxconn like all manufacturers have had bad products. But keep in mind we are talking about the company that OEM's most of Apple's hardware. Apple hardware is not known for failing.
Edit: To be clear, I could give you links to a couple of better 880G boards but they are another $20-$30. You aren't going to get a great board at $55.
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both those graphic cards are better then the one you listed. but i would pass on "foxconn" MB last time i saw a "foxconn" in a rig it was crashing hard with mobo failure.
Apple laptops use foxconn, for what it's worth.
EDIT: Whoops, bit slow to that party, haha.
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Yeah, either video card is a step up from the one you listed.
The primary "issue" on that motherboard is that the manual was printed wrong and the clear CMOS jumper MAY be in the wrong position. Stupid to be sure, but beyond that there doesn't seem to be any complaints about the hardware and the price is good. As long as you are aware of that up front, no big deal. Sadly, as with all things China made quality is hit or miss. I've had boards that have issues with multiple RAID controllers being active at once (Asus), Faulty Driver CD (MSI), and missing RAID drivers (Tyan). When I'm motherboard shopping, I'm looking a features and hardware reliability. Missing/Faulty drivers are an annoyance but easily resolved by downloading the proper ones. Misprinted manuals can be a bigger issue, but typically a corrected one is available online by the time you have the board in hand. EVGA is the only brand that I've NEVER had any issue with which is why I say their GPU's are worth the few extra $. If you were doing an Intel build, I'd recommend them for the mobo as well.
Southbridge fans that burn out quickly or RAID controllers you can't boot from are issue that you can't work around. I didn't see any mention of issues like that on that mobo so I'd say you should be good to go on that. Foxconn like all manufacturers have had bad products. But keep in mind we are talking about the company that OEM's most of Apple's hardware. Apple hardware is not known for failing.
Edit: To be clear, I could give you links to a couple of better 880G boards but they are another $20-$30. You aren't going to get a great board at $55.
Agreed, you have to adjust your expectations, you will never be able to avoid these kinds of issues 100% of the time. But with that, at the very least you can take comfort in the fact that Newegg is very good about customer service, if you get a motherboard that goes belly up on you from the start, they will do what they can to replace/exchange it. On another note, I'd like to say +1 on the SSD recommendation, if you can somehow squeeze it into your budget, it will probably provide the most noticeable upgrade for everyday use. If you have read the hype about SSDs and are worried about their functionality because they are new, all I have to say is don't worry. A lot of them are into their 4th or 5th iterations, a lot of the problems that plagued the initial SSDs are ironed out and as long as you aren't using your SSDs to host a file server or something crazy like that, you won't use up the write cycles on it.
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I used to build and sell computers at a place called Technology Partners in Phx (www.tpi-us.com (http://www.tpi-us.com)) you might want to check them out on pricing too - they usually have some kickass deals on barebones computers, mobos and hdds. When I worked there they had infineon memory, among others. But They have all the components, and have a good LOCAL warranty too. Just FYI
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whenever your doing a FIRST build i would suggest sticking with brands that are well known. ASUS is good for a starting build IMO, but I <3 my EVGA Classified
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Personally Asus has burned too many bridges with me and you pay for their name. Not to mention their CS sucks hairy monkey balls.
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Personally Asus has burned too many bridges with me and you pay for their name. Not to mention their CS sucks hairy monkey balls.
I never had any issues with any ASUS board that I have used. But personally, they wouldnt be my top choice. I preffer EVGA, and sometimes even MSI over them
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Personally Asus has burned too many bridges with me and you pay for their name. Not to mention their CS sucks hairy monkey balls.
I never had any issues with any ASUS board that I have used. But personally, they wouldnt be my top choice. I preffer EVGA, and sometimes even MSI over them
(http://i.imgur.com/vfzh0.gif)
I <3 my EVGA Classified
Im geussing you have not paid the extra for one of these, you would quickly get over ASUS :P
But hey, I still build with and recommend ASUS boards. but personally im sticking with EVGA now.
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I've personally owned 6 Asus boards and built at least a couple dozen systems for other using them. When you are buying their top of the line boards (IE a $350 mobo) you should not have to deal with issues like Southbridge fans that burn themselves out or RAID controllers that conflict with each other.
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When you are buying their top of the line boards (IE a $350 mobo) you should not have to deal with issues like Southbridge fans that burn themselves out or RAID controllers that conflict with each other.
DUDE THIS^^^ lol I completely forgot about that shit. I had pick up one of their "TOP LINE" models for a client build and the southbridge fans suicided, and the RAID had crossed lines. I was pissed. returned it to Newegg, and picked up a lower line ASUS without issues.
I cant belive i forgot about that. lol
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Asus P6T6 WS Revolution. Biggest pain in the ass I've ever used. Doesn't overclock worth a damn, has trouble getting RAM to run at even advertised speeds, SAS controller (one of the big selling points) can't be used with the SATA controller (which is mentioned no where). Yeah. Regret buying mine since day 1 but that was in the beginning of the i7 days. There weren't nearly as many options as there are now. If I could do it over, I would have waited for EVGA to release one.