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« Reply #30 on: September 20, 2005, 07:54:22 AM »
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No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.


Count me out then, too much chance for legal issues to come about....
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« Reply #31 on: September 20, 2005, 08:00:18 AM »
I've gotta go, I've been itching to get out again...

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« Reply #32 on: September 20, 2005, 08:34:56 AM »
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Quote from: "andyhinds"
No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.

Count me out then, too much chance for legal issues to come about....


Sorry Andy,
I agree with Pryde. Count me out.
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« Reply #33 on: September 20, 2005, 08:58:08 AM »
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Quote from: "Pryde"
Quote from: "andyhinds"
No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.

Count me out then, too much chance for legal issues to come about....

Sorry Andy,
I agree with Pryde. Count me out.


  Just to put it into perspective, this place has been no worse than Sasco or Area 51 with the junk that's littered in it.
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« Reply #34 on: September 20, 2005, 09:10:14 AM »
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No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.


I did not mean the mess. Hell we have played in worse. What I was referring to, and I think Pryde may have been referring to as well (correct me if I am wrong Pryde) was the bold type above.
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« Reply #35 on: September 20, 2005, 09:42:27 AM »
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Quote from: "andyhinds"
No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.

Count me out then, too much chance for legal issues to come about....

Sorry Andy,
I agree with Pryde. Count me out.

  Just to put it into perspective, this place has been no worse than Sasco or Area 51 with the junk that's littered in it.


That's not the reason I'm not going.  From here on unless I'm playing with my friends I'm not interested in games that aren't covered by waivers or an organization with waivers.
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« Reply #36 on: September 20, 2005, 09:54:17 AM »
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No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.

Count me out then, too much chance for legal issues to come about....

Sorry Andy,
I agree with Pryde. Count me out.

  Just to put it into perspective, this place has been no worse than Sasco or Area 51 with the junk that's littered in it.

That's not the reason I'm not going.  From here on unless I'm playing with my friends I'm not interested in games that aren't covered by waivers or an organization with waivers.


what are you talking about you went to reaver's game and they didnt require and waivers there.
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« Reply #37 on: September 20, 2005, 11:02:13 AM »
I understand your concern, and respect your decisions.

Really though, signed waivers don't mean much in court. Ask some of the lawyers that post on here.

Me, I'll play, regardless. See ya there.
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« Reply #38 on: September 20, 2005, 11:34:57 AM »
It's like saying you won't drive your car anymore on public streets cause no one has a signed waiver to not sue you if you get into an accident with them.

But What ever you decide is your choice. Like Mooncruiser said, "Me, I'll play regardless. See ya there".
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« Reply #39 on: September 20, 2005, 11:54:20 AM »
My opinion on waivers is this, it doesn't protect you from sh1t.  You can sue somebody regardless of a waiver, players don't get a copy of each others waivers only the organizer does, sooooo how do you know the organizer's waiver is robust enough to cover everybody.

The simpler solution is that I make the game 18yrs and older.  If you go out and buy an airsoft gun, buy the gear, get online to find where to play, drive yourself there.  Then you probably know that there is SOME inherent danger in playing the sport.  Buy either way, I will heed the advice regarding waivers.  

The game will now be 18YRS AND OLDER ONLY.  This way we don't need to worry about parents of minors suing players if there is an injury.

First post is updated, 18YRS OLD IS THE MINIMUM AGE.
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« Reply #40 on: September 20, 2005, 03:10:27 PM »
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18 years and older?
Can I come and play too?

Ricky


yep its still open to everybody 18yrs and older
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« Reply #41 on: September 20, 2005, 03:27:41 PM »
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No waivers required, just stringent (spel) rules regarding eye protection for minors.  

We'll also spend the first 10 min removing any potentially dangerous wood, metal, etc. from the building.

Count me out then, too much chance for legal issues to come about....

Sorry Andy,
I agree with Pryde. Count me out.

  Just to put it into perspective, this place has been no worse than Sasco or Area 51 with the junk that's littered in it.

That's not the reason I'm not going.  From here on unless I'm playing with my friends I'm not interested in games that aren't covered by waivers or an organization with waivers.

what are you talking about you went to reaver's game and they didnt require and waivers there.



What are you talking about? one were his friends. Two didnt you see thoes 3 kid's get turned away because of no waivers?
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« Reply #42 on: September 20, 2005, 04:29:15 PM »
Hinds, i think your "ADULTS ONLY" gig a direction that you probably don't want to go in if you dont want to alienate a significant percentage of local (tucson) airsofters, as well as those who show up to your games (then again, this could be something your aiming for).

Very smooth.

And just look at how many people who were planning on going (including myself) that now can't, or else chose not to in the name of comradery, because your afraid someone "might get sued."

If everyone lived their life in the fashion that they could get sued at every moment... then how would they live at all?


Ever heard of a minor's parents suing an adult because they shot their kid with an airsoft game at a waivered game?
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« Reply #43 on: September 20, 2005, 04:33:10 PM »
Sorry, I'll have to bow out of this one, with all due respect.

Any game where any member of TAC is not welcome, out of respect for my teammates I'll not attend.

I know your switch is intended to keep everything on the up-and-up, but adults sue each other too.
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« Reply #44 on: September 20, 2005, 04:44:08 PM »
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Hinds, i think your "ADULTS ONLY" gig a direction that you probably don't want to go in if you dont want to alienate a significant percentage of local (tucson) airsofters, as well as those who show up to your games (then again, this could be something your aiming for).

Very smooth.

And just look at how many people who were planning on going (including myself) that now can't, or else chose not to in the name of comradery, because your afraid someone "might get sued."

If everyone lived their life in the fashion that they could get sued at every moment... then how would they live at all?


Ever heard of a minor's parents suing an adult because they shot their kid with an airsoft game at a waivered game?





At least you could have gone :-P try being 14..........
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