I'm in for Monolith. I think your URL is messed up, though. It's not taking me to a page where I can register.
375 fps chrono with what? .2's, .25's?
Katana0 and I are down for banditsand maybe a Guest with that setup
I got me plus 6 will be there for bandits.
i am a little confused here haha can somone help me out here?like what are all of the teams?
and what team are those guys on up in the pic?
Wait exactly where is the event gonna be and If Im able to go you can put me down for monolith
Good! Remember to pre-order, the team list includes those who have pre-ordered only, as I will print that out the morning of the game to tell who has already paid for their admission.
Good! Remember to pre-order, the team list includes those who have pre-ordered only, as I will print that out the morning of the game to tell who has already paid for their admission.
DarrK, that link still appears to be wrong. I'm going to 000Webhost.com page that says "Website under review." I'm definitely game to pre-register - let me know if I'm doing something wrong.
This seems really cool. Do you have to have been at Hunting for a Black Box to go to this event? If not I might get together some friends to fill some free stalker positions...
Awesome! I'll talk to my friends then. So for a free stalker I wear street clothes, with a post-apocalyptic theme? Aeg is fine? And I assume gas masks are encouraged?
One quick question on the parental thing. I plan on bringing a couple of friends with me, Would just one of our parents (who stays through the entire time) be ok? If it is, count me in, with two guests. We will either be bandits, or military stalkers, based on if my friend gets his uniform. Ill let you know for sure in a couple weeks, but its most likely bandits.
Awesome we have ten guys so far pre-paid!
On a side note, if anyone has a Soviet/Russian Flag that they wouldn't mind hanging up at the bank, let me know! 8)
im there +1 for bandits a little assistance please where is the link to pre register?
either im blind or my phone isnt showing a paypal button can you send me a link please sorry
Oh, I is gonna be one lonely Monolith dude. I need comrades!
Oh, I is gonna be one lonely Monolith dude. I need comrades!
Comrades requested...
Comrades received! ;D
You need to fix some of the errors in your intro post. ^_^
S.T.A.L.K.E.R: The Road to Pripyat(http://www.facebook.com/groups/204125249657908/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/204125249657908/))March 3rd at SASCO AO(http://[/url)Pre Register Here(https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SGSZFM9ZF7VSY)
STALKER: The Road to Pripyat is the sequel to our succesful first game, Stalker: Hunting for a Black Box. It is an upcoming scenario game to be hosted at SASCO AO this March 3rd. Based off of the popular video game and film, Stalker takes place after the Chernobyl Nuclear disaster, with teams fighting for control in the irradiated "Zone". You can visit our Facebook group (http://www.facebook.com/groups/204125249657908/ (http://www.facebook.com/groups/204125249657908/)), and join to get on the spot updates about the game.
The Story Thus Far -
After a patrol of military helicopters crashed into the marshes outside of Yantar, a team of soldiers was sent in to retrieve it from occupying Monolith forces. While Monolith was able to hold off the military from capturing the black box, they were unsuccessful in decoding the information inside. In turn, the Bandits were able to sneak unnoticed past the Monolith defenses and retrieve the Black Box while they were engaging the Soviet Military Forces. In turn, the Bandits were able to sell the Black Box back to the Military forces, making a considerable profit in doing so.
As time went on, more and more Stalkers began entering the Zone, and the military was unable to stop the flow of new blood. While most of these Stalkers were killed, or worse, captured by Monolith, quite quickly, one of them, it seems, has escaped from the Monolith, and made his way out of Pripyat, into Yantar. He now claims to have found a way to destroy the Monolith defenses around the area of Pripyat, and is willing to guide people there, for a price. This knowledge has become a major factor in the Military's new strategy, as the information the Military has decoded from the Black Box reveals Monolith labs deep inside of Pripyat that have developed terrifying new weapons...
Concept -
Players will be a member of a Faction, with each Faction having a base of operations where the team's Money is stored. It costs $100 (Game Money) per life, and as such each player must be carrying $100 to be "alive" in the game, when a player is killed, someone else can take their money off their "body". Money can be earned for the team by completing mission objectives, and can be used to bribe neutral factions to fight with you. Money can also be used to "purchase" full auto, nobody, excluding the Military, starts being allowed to use full auto fire, it must be "purchased" first.
There will be a token game fee of $8 per player if you pre-order before February 14th, or $15 at the field thereafter, which will be used to cover the cost of props and such for the game.
Teams/Factions that will be fighting in Hunting for a Black Box.
Free Stalkers (16+ Players) (Allies - Duty/Freedom)
-The average Stalker, just looking to get by in the Zone, while trying to make a quick buck. Quick to flee a fight, but ready to defend their fellow loners out there in the Zone.
Uniforms - Street Clothes
Missions
Find and sell Artifacts
Protect fellow Free Stalkers from Bandits and the like
Bandits (8+ Players)
-Criminals who came to the Zone looking for their fortune, or just trying to avoid jail time. They often rob Stalkers of their treasures and leave them for dead. Because of their tactics, almost all factions hate them, but most don't have the time to deal with them.
Uniforms - Street Clothes/Black Jackets/Black Hoodies
Missions
Steal Money and Articacts from Free Stalkers
Distrupt the work of Duty and Freedom
Military Stalkers (6-8 Players)
-Government soldiers trained to protect the integrity of the Zone from outside elements, notably, Stalkers trying to sneak in. They want to recover the Black Box because it was their helicopter that crashed near the city of Pripyat.
Uniforms - Woodland Camo (Requires AEG or Rifle)
Missions
Prevent Stalkers from entering the Zone
Destroy the base of Monolith
United Nations Peacekeepers (6+ Players) (Ceasefire - Military)
-Obnoxious, overpaid, and incompetent, a team of UN Peacekeepers have been sent to the zone to enforce the ceasefire, with force.
Uniforms - Desert DCU/ACU/Chocolate Chip/etc. (Wear a hardhat)
Missions
Keep peace in the town and surrounding areas
Annoy the military
Protect the town
Monolith (4-8 Players)
-Composed of people who were originally subjects in a Soviet mind control experiment gone wrong, now they are composed of people they subject to mind control, and people who join them of their own will, they are essentially hostile to everyone, except the Dark Stalkers who they have an uneasy truce with. They want to see the Zone made secure, and keep everyone else out.
Uniforms - Woodland
Missions
Stop the removal of Artifacts from the Zone
Prevent anyone from entering Pripyat
Capture Free Stalkers/Bandits to turn them into Zombified Stalkers
Zombified Stalkers (N/A)
-Composed of people either captured by Monolith, or who died due to radiation or anomalies. They lack higher intelligence and just seak out prey to blindly shoot at, although that can't operate as a team, or use any sort of tactics, they can quickl overwhelm a lone Stalkers. Players who are either captured by Monolith, or are unable to "buy" their next life (inagme currency) can play as Zombified Stalkers untill they are able to kill a player and take their money.
Missions
Kill people to gain enough money to "buy another life"
Schedule
(March 3rd)
Carpool Meetup: 7:00am
Registration: 8:30am - 9:30am
Safety Briefing/Scenario Rules: 9:30am - 10:00am
Set-Up/Deployment: 10:00am - 10:30am
Mission One: 10:30am - 1:00pm
Lunch Break: 1:00pm - 1:45pm
Set Up/Deployment: 1:45pm - 2:00pm
Mission Two: 2:00pm - 5:00pm
Cleanup/Raffle Prizes: 5:00pm - 5:30pm
Carpool Leaves for Phoenix: 5:30pm
Carpool Info -
Carpool will meet at the Best Buy Parking Lot at 7:00am, address (5051 East Ray Road, Phoenix, AZ 85044)
Please contribute to the gas for the trip there and back and give your driver a few dollars
Anyone who wishes may be a driver, no need for signup, just bring your car
Rules
Age Requirements
16+ Alllowed
12-15, only if parent and or guardian are at the field for the duration of the game (they need not play).
Everyone must sign a waiver, available http://tinyurl.com/waiverstalker (http://tinyurl.com/waiverstalker), minors need to have their parents sign the bottom part.
Eye protection is mandatory, and must fully protect the eyes from all sides, shooting glasses are NOT acceptable!
Minors must wear full face masks, no exceptions!
Guns must be under 375fps (.25bbs)
Bolt Action Rifles must be under 500fps
No real firearms/weapons allowed at the field, keep them at home!
Anyone caught under the influence of any substances will be asked to leave! Alcohol and guns don't mix!
There are no bathroom facilities.
There will most likely be lunches available to purchase (we're thinking sandwiches) for $5, and will include a drink.
Uniform Requirements
(New) Uniform Requirements
Free Stalkers - Street Clothes
Bandits - Dark Street Clothes/Black Jackets/Hoodies
Military Stalkers - Russian Style Camo
UN Peacekeepers - ACU/Desert/Chocolate Chip (+ Hardhat)
Monolith - Woodland Camo
Pre-Registration is open and will be $8, walk on/day of the game will cost $15, please state your name and desired team after paying, there are limited slots so sign up soon!PRE-REGISTRATION IS OPEN(http://img513.imageshack.us/img513/310/btnbuynowcclg.gif) (https://www.paypal.com/cgi-bin/webscr?cmd=_s-xclick&hosted_button_id=SGSZFM9ZF7VSY)Pre Register Price is $8 for an all day event including non-player actors, props, and a raffle! Cost on the day of the game will be $15
Team Lists
Total Pre-Paid = 12
Free Stalkers
- Colin M.
- Eric M.
- Wesley W.
- Jon K.
Bandits (Full)
- DMan?
- DMan1?
- Dman2?
- Dman3?
- Dman4?
- Dman5?
- Dman6?
Military Stalkers (Full)
- Matt T.
- Matt L.
- GOLDLEADER
- SLIM
- Psychoboy
- MAX/Mahabra
- DAVID
- 34th Spetsnaz?
UN Peacekeepers
- Darr K.
Monolith
- Justin S.
- Veronica M.
- Veronica's Guest
- D. Hawks?
- D. Hawks?
- D. Hawks?
- D. Hawks?
- D. Hawks?
Directions –
1. Take I10 South to exit 226 at Red Rock.
2. After exiting go right onto East Sasco Road.
3. Turn onto S Aguirne Lane.
4. Turn onto East Sasco Rd again and continue until a fork.
5. At the fork continue on Sasco, do not go to E Coachway road.
6. Continue down Sasco, you will encounter a wash, most likely filled with water, you need a truck!
7. Carefully make your way through that by car, or walk the rest of the way (less than 2 miles)
8. Continue down East Sasco Road until you reach the field, marked by either a (small) sign, or by the cars of the other players, do not drive into the area though, please park in a safe location nearby, we don’t want cars on the field.
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I underlined some of the mistakes you need to fix.
So is this game now full?
I wouldn't be so quick to assume... How many of these people have actually paid? I think it might be smart to have somewhat of a "waiting list."
will you expand the teams if more people want in? The front page shows that the game is full. SASCO will hold more people than 40.
there is a waiver?
Age Requirements
16+ Alllowed
12-15, only if parent and or guardian are at the field for the duration of the game (they need not play).
Everyone must sign a waiver, available http://tinyurl.com/waiverstalker (http://tinyurl.com/waiverstalker), minors need to have their parents sign the bottom part.
That's like 10 new people... You been holding out. :P
Just paid. It will be my first game at sasco but have spoken with Squawkin' chicken about the previous game held at sasco and have seen youtube videos of the game. Im looking forward to attending this game/field. I have a question on camo. I have ACU pants, jacket and rig, how does that work as far as being part of the duty faction? I dont see a uniform requirement or anything? I also have tan rig I can use but I was just curious because I read the other teams uniform requirements
Hey Darr could you do me a favor and switch me to Duty?
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't Duty and Freedom mortal enemies? Having them in the same camo colors could get quite confusing.Just paid. It will be my first game at sasco but have spoken with Squawkin' chicken about the previous game held at sasco and have seen youtube videos of the game. Im looking forward to attending this game/field. I have a question on camo. I have ACU pants, jacket and rig, how does that work as far as being part of the duty faction? I dont see a uniform requirement or anything? I also have tan rig I can use but I was just curious because I read the other teams uniform requirements
Duty/Freedom are Desert/Tan Camo.
Forgive me if I'm wrong, but aren't Duty and Freedom mortal enemies? Having them in the same camo colors could get quite confusing.Just paid. It will be my first game at sasco but have spoken with Squawkin' chicken about the previous game held at sasco and have seen youtube videos of the game. Im looking forward to attending this game/field. I have a question on camo. I have ACU pants, jacket and rig, how does that work as far as being part of the duty faction? I dont see a uniform requirement or anything? I also have tan rig I can use but I was just curious because I read the other teams uniform requirements
Duty/Freedom are Desert/Tan Camo.
So Duty is desert my good man? Or would you like us to go ACU?
I suppose the question here would be if ACU can be considered desert camo, since it was developed as a universal camo pattern (although it's effectiveness is controversial)
Pretty soon this game series will reach the same level as it's sister event in Russia! I hope it stays more affordable though ;)
I remember there have been a couple 100+ person games out at SASCO that I have been to. I think the first one I went to was Sic Siemper Tyrannis and the other was The Hills Have Eyes (at least I think that was close to 100).Are you serious? I was just posting about this in the Op Gold War thread. I don't see how that large of a group would work out playing at SASCO. There doesn't seem like enough cover or buildings at all. At Red Sleigh Down there were 40 people and that seemed to be a good number. I guess it could work, except it might not be as fun IMO. If you're going to have that many people then go all out with buildings and trenches.
I remember there have been a couple 100+ person games out at SASCO that I have been to. I think the first one I went to was Sic Siemper Tyrannis and the other was The Hills Have Eyes (at least I think that was close to 100).Are you serious? I was just posting about this in the Op Gold War thread. I don't see how that large of a group would work out playing at SASCO. There doesn't seem like enough cover or buildings at all. At Red Sleigh Down there were 40 people and that seemed to be a good number. I guess it could work, except it might not be as fun IMO. If you're going to have that many people then go all out with buildings and trenches.
Can I just show up and play there under a neutral faction lol.
Given that Darrk is trying to admin this himself, I'd say the real bottleneck is in number of admins. Those 100+ people games usually need to run at least 3 full time staff that are not playing or else content and communication suffer.I generally believe that the best way to admin is by making team leaders responsible for their team members. The mission orders are pre-written with designated times to be opened on the outside of them. This allows for (roughly) on time delivery, along with clear orders, because I can have a full page to explain the orders, as opposed to short radio trasmissions.
Back on topic. Is there anything special we need to bring that is not currently posted in the front page? Just want to make sure so we have kit in order.No particularly, a gasmask, if you have one, is useful for the game, but those are available "in-game", all of that stuff will be explained at the event.
Darrk, just a minor clarification please. Are support weapons allowed (e.g. RPK)? If so what fps rules should they observe (TAC has them as 400 fps with .25 which is higher then an AEG)? Number per faction and should the operator be making an effort to single shot until they purchase full auto?There shouldn't be any software you need to download, be wary of fake "download here" links, but as long as all your guy are over 18, they can sign them at the field. Most factions will have enough money at the beginning to buy one or two sets of full auto, I recommend you use them for your support weapons, but in the event you don't, they need to make a very concerted effort to shoot semi. On your fps note, yes that's fine, the rules are there or safety reasons and I'd Tac considers it safe, it is fine by me.
Also, can you give me alternate directions for downloading the waiver or shoot me a copy of the waiver at (my forum username)@gmail.com so I can batch print them for the team? I refuse to install the proprietary downloader that your link is trying to get me to install.
Thanks!
What are the rules for hand grenades?
Those rules apply to dummy frags as well?What are the rules for hand grenades?
10ft kill radius, kills everyone in a room if thrown in.
Sorry to cancel last minute, poor planning on my part. I am going to Houston the same day (Forgot it was the start of spring break.. D'oh!). Anyways, go ahead and take my names of the list and open it up for others to have an opportunity to go.
Those rules apply to dummy frags as well?
Also, I suspect I know the answer to this already, but are pyrotechnic smoke grenades allowed?
so i got $8 for one spot is that cool?
I have been playing in Sasco for a long time and never seen smoke nades being used so might want check TAC rules with pyros?This is what I'm seeing:
7. No explosives or combustibles of any kind are allowed in games unless approved by the organizer/host of the event beforehand.It goes on to list examples and penalties and such, but that's the important bit.
not homemade, only factory made haha. i'm a chemist , i got the arsonist merit badge to boot lol.The biggest downside of a forum on a sport dominated by 14-year-olds is that nobody will ever assume you're responsible by default.
i make my grenades with a pound of pure potasium mixed with harmless vinager.....or maybe it was baking soda i was supposed to use? ....
oh well, same thing lol.
ya, pyro stuff is mighty dangerous. but if experienced it makes for fun stuff.
(obviously i'm no chemist. but my uncle kinda is, we once thought of painting a ducks bottom with potasium and watching it land in the lake hahaha. now that's funneh) kinda trolled.
Well, count out my smokes, then. It's not like it's a particularly difficult recipe, though...
On that note, if I wanted to buy commercial smokes in the Valley, anybody know where I could do that?
Rabble rabble conflict of interest.Well, count out my smokes, then. It's not like it's a particularly difficult recipe, though...
On that note, if I wanted to buy commercial smokes in the Valley, anybody know where I could do that?
I tried to buy them online over two weeks ago and they have YET to arrive (Do not, under any circumstances buy from this website, http://www.smokegrenade.net/, (http://www.smokegrenade.net/,) that's where I ordered from.), and I need them for the game this weekend, so it looks like I'm stuck making my own, I can sell you some if you need.
I have seen a lot responsible of three fingerd men in my time! While smoke nades are not rocket science there is plenty of room for error.I once saw a guy fill tennis balls with his "Home made Smoke compound" He was very unhappy to find out they put a Toxic chemical when burned.not homemade, only factory made haha. i'm a chemist , i got the arsonist merit badge to boot lol.The biggest downside of a forum on a sport dominated by 14-year-olds is that nobody will ever assume you're responsible by default.
i make my grenades with a pound of pure potasium mixed with harmless vinager.....or maybe it was baking soda i was supposed to use? ....
oh well, same thing lol.
ya, pyro stuff is mighty dangerous. but if experienced it makes for fun stuff.
(obviously i'm no chemist. but my uncle kinda is, we once thought of painting a ducks bottom with potasium and watching it land in the lake hahaha. now that's funneh) kinda trolled.
Feels bad, man.
Burning tennis balls tend to be rather toxic, yeah. There really isn't much room for error unless you start getting creative. It's two ingredients, and if you mix up the ratio, it just doesn't burn well and sometimes sputters out early if packed poorly.I have seen a lot responsible of three fingerd men in my time! While smoke nades are not rocket science there is plenty of room for error.I once saw a guy fill tennis balls with his "Home made Smoke compound" He was very unhappy to find out they put a Toxic chemical when burned.not homemade, only factory made haha. i'm a chemist , i got the arsonist merit badge to boot lol.The biggest downside of a forum on a sport dominated by 14-year-olds is that nobody will ever assume you're responsible by default.
i make my grenades with a pound of pure potasium mixed with harmless vinager.....or maybe it was baking soda i was supposed to use? ....
oh well, same thing lol.
ya, pyro stuff is mighty dangerous. but if experienced it makes for fun stuff.
(obviously i'm no chemist. but my uncle kinda is, we once thought of painting a ducks bottom with potasium and watching it land in the lake hahaha. now that's funneh) kinda trolled.
Feels bad, man.
I think many paint ball shops carry cheap smoke candles.They must be lit with a lighter, or a match.
The 49Th use only professional grade, commercial pyro for safety reason.
Rabble rabble conflict of interest.Well, count out my smokes, then. It's not like it's a particularly difficult recipe, though...
On that note, if I wanted to buy commercial smokes in the Valley, anybody know where I could do that?
I tried to buy them online over two weeks ago and they have YET to arrive (Do not, under any circumstances buy from this website, http://www.smokegrenade.net/, (http://www.smokegrenade.net/,) that's where I ordered from.), and I need them for the game this weekend, so it looks like I'm stuck making my own, I can sell you some if you need.
PM incoming.
Nah, I don't want to order online with two and a half days left on the clock. No way they'd get here on time with standard shipping, and express shipping is outrageous.Rabble rabble conflict of interest.Well, count out my smokes, then. It's not like it's a particularly difficult recipe, though...
On that note, if I wanted to buy commercial smokes in the Valley, anybody know where I could do that?
I tried to buy them online over two weeks ago and they have YET to arrive (Do not, under any circumstances buy from this website, http://www.smokegrenade.net/, (http://www.smokegrenade.net/,) that's where I ordered from.), and I need them for the game this weekend, so it looks like I'm stuck making my own, I can sell you some if you need.
PM incoming.
http://www.pyrocreations.com/inc/sdetail/56515/95659 (http://www.pyrocreations.com/inc/sdetail/56515/95659) look at the "Chick sticks" 90 Sec burn. pink smoke
Bring some and lets look at them.You know what? I like that. I'll bring some, we'll light off one or two beforehand, if they work right I'll use 'em, if they take a chunk out of the smelter building I'll switch to commercial smokes. If that sounds good to DarrK...?
Burning tennis balls tend to be rather toxic, yeah. There really isn't much room for error unless you start getting creative. It's two ingredients, and if you mix up the ratio, it just doesn't burn well and sometimes sputters out early if packed poorly.I have seen a lot responsible of three fingerd men in my time! While smoke nades are not rocket science there is plenty of room for error.I once saw a guy fill tennis balls with his "Home made Smoke compound" He was very unhappy to find out they put a Toxic chemical when burned.not homemade, only factory made haha. i'm a chemist , i got the arsonist merit badge to boot lol.The biggest downside of a forum on a sport dominated by 14-year-olds is that nobody will ever assume you're responsible by default.
i make my grenades with a pound of pure potasium mixed with harmless vinager.....or maybe it was baking soda i was supposed to use? ....
oh well, same thing lol.
ya, pyro stuff is mighty dangerous. but if experienced it makes for fun stuff.
(obviously i'm no chemist. but my uncle kinda is, we once thought of painting a ducks bottom with potasium and watching it land in the lake hahaha. now that's funneh) kinda trolled.
Feels bad, man.
I think many paint ball shops carry cheap smoke candles.They must be lit with a lighter, or a match.
The 49Th use only professional grade, commercial pyro for safety reason.
If you guys want a "commercial pyro only" rule, that's your prerogative and I'll abide by it, but I'm rather insulted by the "you'll blow your hands off" attitude when I'm talking about mixing something that's not even mildly explosive. I mean, shit, this stuff is edible.
First of all, let me state that I own neither the Anarchist's Cookbook nor the Poor Man's James Bond for a reason. Second, it's household sugar and potassium nitrate. It literally is edible, though admittedly it might not sit well. As far as I'm aware, the worst possible thing that can happen (aside from accidental fire, as it IS a pyrotechnic device) is you cook it too hot and it lights off on the stovetop, smoking out your house... essentially just a premature ignition.Burning tennis balls tend to be rather toxic, yeah. There really isn't much room for error unless you start getting creative. It's two ingredients, and if you mix up the ratio, it just doesn't burn well and sometimes sputters out early if packed poorly.I have seen a lot responsible of three fingerd men in my time! While smoke nades are not rocket science there is plenty of room for error.I once saw a guy fill tennis balls with his "Home made Smoke compound" He was very unhappy to find out they put a Toxic chemical when burned.not homemade, only factory made haha. i'm a chemist , i got the arsonist merit badge to boot lol.The biggest downside of a forum on a sport dominated by 14-year-olds is that nobody will ever assume you're responsible by default.
i make my grenades with a pound of pure potasium mixed with harmless vinager.....or maybe it was baking soda i was supposed to use? ....
oh well, same thing lol.
ya, pyro stuff is mighty dangerous. but if experienced it makes for fun stuff.
(obviously i'm no chemist. but my uncle kinda is, we once thought of painting a ducks bottom with potasium and watching it land in the lake hahaha. now that's funneh) kinda trolled.
Feels bad, man.
I think many paint ball shops carry cheap smoke candles.They must be lit with a lighter, or a match.
The 49Th use only professional grade, commercial pyro for safety reason.
If you guys want a "commercial pyro only" rule, that's your prerogative and I'll abide by it, but I'm rather insulted by the "you'll blow your hands off" attitude when I'm talking about mixing something that's not even mildly explosive. I mean, shit, this stuff is edible.
I am a 21 year US Army vet. I was a Combat Engineer for most of the active portion, 7 years. I can mix up things that will blow of your hands and other parts, pretty much all they will find is yours hands. Yet I will not play in or around home-made pyro, not even my own. Nor would I expect others to feel safe around anyone's home-made pyro.
When a chemical compound that involves the likes of phosphorus, sodium, or potassium (alone are volatile enough) is mixed by a lay individual who reads the formula from the anachist's cookbook I don't want to be anywhere near it. :)
Well put my friend!Burning tennis balls tend to be rather toxic, yeah. There really isn't much room for error unless you start getting creative. It's two ingredients, and if you mix up the ratio, it just doesn't burn well and sometimes sputters out early if packed poorly.I have seen a lot responsible of three fingerd men in my time! While smoke nades are not rocket science there is plenty of room for error.I once saw a guy fill tennis balls with his "Home made Smoke compound" He was very unhappy to find out they put a Toxic chemical when burned.not homemade, only factory made haha. i'm a chemist , i got the arsonist merit badge to boot lol.The biggest downside of a forum on a sport dominated by 14-year-olds is that nobody will ever assume you're responsible by default.
i make my grenades with a pound of pure potasium mixed with harmless vinager.....or maybe it was baking soda i was supposed to use? ....
oh well, same thing lol.
ya, pyro stuff is mighty dangerous. but if experienced it makes for fun stuff.
(obviously i'm no chemist. but my uncle kinda is, we once thought of painting a ducks bottom with potasium and watching it land in the lake hahaha. now that's funneh) kinda trolled.
Feels bad, man.
I think many paint ball shops carry cheap smoke candles.They must be lit with a lighter, or a match.
The 49Th use only professional grade, commercial pyro for safety reason.
If you guys want a "commercial pyro only" rule, that's your prerogative and I'll abide by it, but I'm rather insulted by the "you'll blow your hands off" attitude when I'm talking about mixing something that's not even mildly explosive. I mean, shit, this stuff is edible.
I am a 21 year US Army vet. I was a Combat Engineer for most of the active portion, 7 years. I can mix up things that will blow of your hands and other parts, pretty much all they will find is yours hands. Yet I will not play in or around home-made pyro, not even my own. Nor would I expect others to feel safe around anyone's home-made pyro.
When a chemical compound that involves the likes of phosphorus, sodium, or potassium (alone are volatile enough) is mixed by a lay individual who reads the formula from the anachist's cookbook I don't want to be anywhere near it. :)
Personally, I have no problem with M18's but they are outrageously expensive. For $2 those 1 minute smokers from Scott's link are looking good to me. I have no problem with store bought smoke as long as the user places it on clear, dry, ground and not throws it in the brush, or at someone. The latter being more likely to happen, and that is the reason TAC does not allow it. I have been to CC's and at Cold Burn II the final Bomb prop was a huge case filled with smokers and it was tizzight. When used properly as a prop smoke is great.
Only $80? Man, that's NOTHING. Check this price (http://www.topnotchtactical.com/content-product_info/product_id-2937/als_pocket_white_smoke_grenade.html).Personally, I have no problem with M18's but they are outrageously expensive. For $2 those 1 minute smokers from Scott's link are looking good to me. I have no problem with store bought smoke as long as the user places it on clear, dry, ground and not throws it in the brush, or at someone. The latter being more likely to happen, and that is the reason TAC does not allow it. I have been to CC's and at Cold Burn II the final Bomb prop was a huge case filled with smokers and it was tizzight. When used properly as a prop smoke is great.
Aside from the cost of an M18 ( I have seen them go for $80.00) it is the amount of smoke..way to much for what we are using them for,Not to mention The used to give me a wicked headache. I recall using white, Heavy screening smoke nades,,WOW!
Pyro adds a lot to A game when done correctly. Perhaps we just ask Arty to give us a bit Of WP just befoe Game on..HEHEHEH Evil Laugh!
Personally, i use these: http://www.amazon.com/TNT-Pull-String-Smoke-Grenade/dp/B00346EM92 (http://www.amazon.com/TNT-Pull-String-Smoke-Grenade/dp/B00346EM92) And they are from a well known company. They last about a 75 seconds... and are self ignite, internal flame. Don't tell me I can blow my hand off with these, they won't blow up. The worst that can happen to a person is minor burns if they hold it in their hand for more than 20 seconds, and who is stupid enough to do that?Don't all pull-string smoke grenades incur a $25 hazmat shipping fee, though?
You could buy a case if you wish to spend this much: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmisc&field-keywords=case+of+pull+string+smoke+grenade (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmisc&field-keywords=case+of+pull+string+smoke+grenade)Those are actually the ones we used at the Sandbox when I was out there last. They sell them for $3 or $4 pre-game, and they work surprisingly well. There's got to be a place locally that sells them so you don't have to pay $30-some in shipping, though.
Wow! Tell you what cuz I like you I will sell you two of these small ones for $15,000.00,and.....I will double your order for only $5K more......Now thats deal!Only $80? Man, that's NOTHING. Check this price (http://www.topnotchtactical.com/content-product_info/product_id-2937/als_pocket_white_smoke_grenade.html).Personally, I have no problem with M18's but they are outrageously expensive. For $2 those 1 minute smokers from Scott's link are looking good to me. I have no problem with store bought smoke as long as the user places it on clear, dry, ground and not throws it in the brush, or at someone. The latter being more likely to happen, and that is the reason TAC does not allow it. I have been to CC's and at Cold Burn II the final Bomb prop was a huge case filled with smokers and it was tizzight. When used properly as a prop smoke is great.
Aside from the cost of an M18 ( I have seen them go for $80.00) it is the amount of smoke..way to much for what we are using them for,Not to mention The used to give me a wicked headache. I recall using white, Heavy screening smoke nades,,WOW!
Pyro adds a lot to A game when done correctly. Perhaps we just ask Arty to give us a bit Of WP just befoe Game on..HEHEHEH Evil Laugh!
They sell them at firework stands near July 4th and new year. If I remember correctly they're around $9 for two of them.You could buy a case if you wish to spend this much: http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmisc&field-keywords=case+of+pull+string+smoke+grenade (http://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmisc&field-keywords=case+of+pull+string+smoke+grenade)Those are actually the ones we used at the Sandbox when I was out there last. They sell them for $3 or $4 pre-game, and they work surprisingly well. There's got to be a place locally that sells them so you don't have to pay $30-some in shipping, though.
I have an SUV and am wondering if I should bother to stop at the carpool. I could take two people, not for free. Would anyone be interested?
Can't wait!
So in case anyone was wondering, I'm the guy who flooded his car (also the ghillie suit) and boy that did not go well. A few guys stuck around for a bit while I got a tow truck inbound (cheers mates), and left us with the tow. Except that tow truck never came, and our phones were dead, and it got dark, in a known area for illegals and coyotes. So JP and I trek all the way up E sasco road, in soaking wet boots, only to find the red rock bar closed. Some pickup FINALLY gave us a lift after so many cars had passed us, only to find Dairy Queen and Shell closed. Further up the road was a towing place, the same place that apparently tried to find us. The only went as far as the cattle farm on E sasco before giving up. By the time we lead them to the truck, towed it, and got picked up and brought back to phoenix and I finally was home it was 1AM. And the truck is still at exit 219 off the I-10.
Still, great game.
So in case anyone was wondering, I'm the guy who flooded his car (also the ghillie suit) and boy that did not go well. A few guys stuck around for a bit while I got a tow truck inbound (cheers mates), and left us with the tow. Except that tow truck never came, and our phones were dead, and it got dark, in a known area for illegals and coyotes. So JP and I trek all the way up E sasco road, in soaking wet boots, only to find the red rock bar closed. Some pickup FINALLY gave us a lift after so many cars had passed us, only to find Dairy Queen and Shell closed. Further up the road was a towing place, the same place that apparently tried to find us. The only went as far as the cattle farm on E sasco before giving up. By the time we lead them to the truck, towed it, and got picked up and brought back to phoenix and I finally was home it was 1AM. And the truck is still at exit 219 off the I-10.
Still, great game.
So in case anyone was wondering, I'm the guy who flooded his car (also the ghillie suit) and boy that did not go well. A few guys stuck around for a bit while I got a tow truck inbound (cheers mates), and left us with the tow. Except that tow truck never came, and our phones were dead, and it got dark, in a known area for illegals and coyotes. So JP and I trek all the way up E sasco road, in soaking wet boots, only to find the red rock bar closed. Some pickup FINALLY gave us a lift after so many cars had passed us, only to find Dairy Queen and Shell closed. Further up the road was a towing place, the same place that apparently tried to find us. The only went as far as the cattle farm on E sasco before giving up. By the time we lead them to the truck, towed it, and got picked up and brought back to phoenix and I finally was home it was 1AM. And the truck is still at exit 219 off the I-10.
Still, great game.
Great game, and remember I'M NOT A PUNISHER! Lol.
i kept thinking to myself it was the army of two mask.It wasn't?
Bandits left at lunch ...... lolYeah, but they were still there from 10 to... was it 1 or 2? Okay, so three-ish hours. Still.
I'm dying to see pictures!
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The picture are Wicked good! Thanks go out to Darr and his parents for agreat day of Air-Soft..Stalker style! Now do I shoot the red arm bands or the yellow..Heck kill'em all!