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Airsoft Hardware => Accessories & Gear => Topic started by: busta_cap on January 28, 2004, 02:45:58 PM

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Post by: busta_cap on January 28, 2004, 02:45:58 PM: I have some Wiley xL-1's and i love them. Get yourself the light rust lenses thought...
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Post by: Raith on January 28, 2004, 04:07:46 PM: Yeah, Wiley XL-1, Wiley SG-1, & Hatch BOSS goggles. All are low profile, all are known for their fogging. In the slightly larger, but still small in comparison to other goggles are the ESS NVG goggles and Bolle T-800 goggles.
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Post by: azsarge on January 28, 2004, 05:21:23 PM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by busta_cap
 I have some Wiley xL-1's and i love them. Get yourself the light rust lenses thought...
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Those are ugly and more importantly, FOGGY! Clear lenses are best for all-light conditions.

The ESS Profile NVG and Bolle T800 that Raith mentioned are the best choices. Theu will run you about 55 shipped for the Bolle, and about 65-75 shipped for the ESS. Note that the Bolles are easier to clean, but don't offer dust protection (like you would ever need that feature in airsoft).

I have T800s, have used them MANY MANY times, and love them. They leave nice lines on your face.
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Post by: thatoneguy92088 on January 29, 2004, 08:17:46 PM: hey guys, I was thinking about your choices, but i have a question. When i see people playing airsoft, they mostly just have regular sunglasses on, is this correct?
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Post by: Pancho on January 29, 2004, 08:21:37 PM: Actually, most are wearing goggles. There are a few that are wearing some sort of shooting glasses. But MOST of us wear goggles.
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Post by: Victor3 on January 29, 2004, 08:57:51 PM: You can't go wrong with the Bolle T800's. I love them. Well I don't "love" them.....you get the picture. They are comfy, small, light weight, the lenses are a snap to change out/clean, and the best part is....no foam to soak up the sweat, just a nice rubber seal.
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Post by: azsarge on January 30, 2004, 12:26:03 AM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Victor3
 ...and the best part is....no foam to soak up the sweat, just a nice rubber seal.
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Which also contributes to the ease of cleaning. They barely ever fog (much less than any other eye protetion, except for the ESS TurboCams), and are fantastic! Try to find an airsofter that doesn't love them!
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Post by: marve467 on January 30, 2004, 08:16:45 AM: if your looking for a cheap option, many snowboarding goggles can withstand a bb going 500 fps. Mine, (oakley) are very durable and comfortable, one downside is they have foam which can get moist, and lead to fogging, but anti fog spray works fine for me.
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Post by: Victor3 on January 30, 2004, 11:34:49 AM: Just for your info Snowboarding goggles are not built to the same ratings as tactical or paintball goggles.....I wouldn't trust my eyesight to them. If you can't afford "proper" eye protection you'd prolly be better off not playing.
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Post by: Paco on January 30, 2004, 11:53:47 AM: Unless Oakley has changed, ALL Oakley products are built to exceed ANSI Z87.1. That rating is the absolute minimum I'd trust my eyes to, as most of the true "Tactical" goggles (like ESS) are built to a higher safety standard (beyond the ANSI Z87.1 rating).
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Post by: Pancho on January 30, 2004, 03:21:55 PM: Last time I looked at the Oakley website, everything they make meets or exceeds the ANSI rating
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Post by: Airsofter1 on January 30, 2004, 07:24:15 PM: Many of the older Oakley ski and snowboard goggles are NOT ANSI Z87.1 rated. When in doubt about a certain piece of eye protections rating, get one that you can be sure on.
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Post by: Mr. Joseph on January 30, 2004, 08:06:55 PM: Are your standard type shooting eye glasses ANSI rated? Im talking about the wrap around yellow jobs that you get for 20 bucks so you dont take powder or a spent case in the eye.
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Post by: azsarge on January 30, 2004, 11:10:04 PM: So my Oakley Fives are ok to play airsoft with? Sa-weet! Any documentation to back this?
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Post by: Neepster on January 30, 2004, 11:28:35 PM: Quick question on the subject of eye protection. From the AA pics, it looks like most folks just wear goggles and no other facial protection (ala paintball). Having been shot in an area of the face where my mask didn't cover in paintball, I know that is not fun. Is it less painful in airsoft and then just not worth worrying about?

Thanks.
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Post by: Screwloose on January 31, 2004, 12:08:23 AM: It depends on a lot of things. You could loose a tooth. Or it might just feel like some one flicked you on the cheek. If you care about your good looks, wear some facial protection.
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Post by: Raith on January 31, 2004, 12:50:33 AM: As Haji says, "Just don't lead with your head..."

I make it a point to consciously keep my mouth closed as well.

I've had my lip busted open before, but thats about it. I think, as with a lot of things, its a calculated risk.
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Post by: HavHav on January 31, 2004, 07:32:49 AM: After the accident at the Prescott game, I kept having to remind myself to keep my mouth closed.
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Post by: Paco on January 31, 2004, 07:34:40 AM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by azsarge
 So my Oakley Fives are ok to play airsoft with? Sa-weet! Any documentation to back this?
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As long as:

1 - You're over 18
2 - They meet the minimum requirements as stated in the Rules (for AA events)

If you're not sure of their rating, contact Oakley. After all, they are YOUR eyes, and you've only got two.

Personally, I wouldn't ever play airsoft without completely sealed goggles.
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Post by: HavHav on January 31, 2004, 07:48:48 AM: http://rsn.altrec.com/shop/detail/12661/0 (http://rsn.altrec.com/shop/detail/12661/0) Says they meet the ANSI Requirements.
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Post by: Airsofter1 on January 31, 2004, 08:44:54 PM: Joey, yes the ones I wear are ANSI Z87.1 tuff. They are the Smith & Wesson Magnum shooting glasses. I really like them, they provide a good wrap around for protection. Nice look for a fraction of the cost of a set of Oakley M-Frames. They seem to be really popular because everwhere I have looked the smoke and clear lense versions are sold out and have been for the past year or so. I have been looking for a set of clear ones forever! So if anyone spots a set let me know.
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Post by: Paco on January 31, 2004, 10:32:20 PM: uhhh... probably better to go to the horses mouth for that one: www.oakley.com (http://www.oakley.com) or call them about the older stuff.
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Post by: Airsofter1 on February 01, 2004, 08:04:07 AM: Christian, I had a pair of Oakley XXs that got a couple of shots once at a game - the lenses were fine but the frame snapped around one lense [:(]. I was sad... Some Oakley M-frames or Pro M-Frames with some Swoop or Heater shape lenses should be a much stronger alternative while still remaining fashionable and sexy on the field[;)].
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Post by: azsarge on February 01, 2004, 12:19:56 PM: Roger that, Mikey. Thanks for the info, everyone!
Jason, I wouldn't wear them in a game, but only for shooting targes or such. Maybe at the staging area as an alternative to the Bolles. I always keep my goggles on if someone has a mag loaded, no matter where it is. I also agree about sealed goggles. The Fives do not provide good enough protection on the sides to warrant me risking it. It is good to know that they could handle it, though.
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Post by: Paco on February 01, 2004, 12:59:40 PM: Just as a reference, I use ESS Turbocam's for airsoft, and I have a couple pairs of Oakley M Frames that I use for shooting (real) that I would definitely not wear for airsoft. [:)]
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Post by: leakingpen on February 06, 2004, 11:34:43 AM: now, further question, is there anyplace local that sells goggles, or am i best set going online?
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Post by: Paco on February 06, 2004, 12:15:49 PM: Cheapest place to get them new will probably be online.
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Post by: azsarge on February 06, 2004, 12:43:30 PM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by leakingpen
 now, further question, is there anyplace local that sells goggles, or am i best set going online?
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Paco is correct in saying your best bet in online. However, Arizona Tactical has some goggles that you can take a look at. Just don't buy there, they wanted 80 bux for some T800s!

You could also take a look at some players goggles at the game on the 21st. I'm sure someone will have a pair you can borrow and use that day. Heck, you can use my T800s if you want. But definitely check them out before you purchase.
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Post by: leakingpen on February 06, 2004, 12:47:16 PM: sarge, thanks! i'll take you up on that offer. a chance to try them out in battle, perfect!
except... is it possible to use non rx adapter goggles with glasses, or no?
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Post by: azsarge on February 06, 2004, 12:57:40 PM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by leakingpen
 sarge, thanks! i'll take you up on that offer. a chance to try them out in battle, perfect!
except... is it possible to use non rx adapter goggles with glasses, or no?
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Yep! In fact, Ian (Cochise) has that very setup. There is a notch and 2 holes built into the frame of the goggles, and the way in which the RX inserts attach is pretty slick. Other goggles allow RX glasses to be worn underneath, but those are usually too bulky. The T800 is slim and sexy.
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Post by: leakingpen on February 06, 2004, 02:49:06 PM: okay, so a no go with borrowing. ahh well. thanks anyways.
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Post by: Pancho on February 06, 2004, 03:56:48 PM: I tried glasses under my T800's. It doesn't work too well. The Rx inserts are the way, for sure, but they fog up, so beware. I now use contact lenses when I airsoft. Much less fogging!

I have some JT (I think) painball goggles that are a bit larger, and more comfortable to use glasses under, but you still run into the severe fogging issue, and they are larger, so boonies dont fit down on my head as well as I'd like.
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Post by: leakingpen on February 06, 2004, 04:03:01 PM: heavy astigmatism. contacts are a no go.
i was thinking though, i've been thinking about getting sports goggles for a while anyways, those would probably fit under goggles better.
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Post by: thatoneguy92088 on February 13, 2004, 06:25:14 PM: I need to know where the best online retailer that i could order over the phone would be. Thx for your help!
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Post by: Pancho on February 13, 2004, 06:46:12 PM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by leakingpen
 heavy astigmatism. contacts are a no go.
i was thinking though, i've been thinking about getting sports goggles for a while anyways, those would probably fit under goggles better.
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Post by: leakingpen on February 14, 2004, 10:29:11 AM: heh, tell me about it. im a chem student. have had LOTS of experience with lab goggles and fogging. built my own ungogging goggles about 3 years ago from a small computer fan and a battery. looked ugly, but it worked. of course, the sports glasses will now have to wait. got the news at the dentist friday. root canal.... ugh.
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Post by: Guest on February 18, 2004, 11:04:53 AM: I don't know about you guys but I am an ex paintballer. I am now trying to get as far away from anything paintball as I can to the point where I dont even use a GBB. I have a springer instead because I don't want to fool around with gas. Well anyways...my JT Paintball Mask has of course goggles in them. I pulled the Goggles out of the mask and cut the back sides of the mask to get the straps off. They are already impact rated and I didnt have to spend anymore money on eye protection, For all you ex paintballers out there who still have your mask but only want goggles, do what I did. It works well!
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Post by: Guest on February 18, 2004, 11:07:09 AM: Also, has anybody ordered from WGC.com and used any other shipping than the EXPRESS (rip-off)? The ground shipping estimates 1-2 months. What the hell, they are based out of Ohio! PM me back
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Post by: Raith on February 18, 2004, 01:58:32 PM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by AFJON2003
 Also, has anybody ordered from WGC.com and used any other shipping than the EXPRESS (rip-off)? The ground shipping estimates 1-2 months. What the hell, they are based out of Ohio! PM me back
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I don't see anything at WGC.com... If you're talking about Wargame Club, they're in Hong Kong, not Ohio. I don't think express shipping is a rip off. Most of those places will only ship guns express, so that the package is insured. AFAIK, anyways.
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Post by: thatoneguy92088 on February 18, 2004, 08:10:00 PM: Well i need a place I can get them in aboot 4 days. I am gonna try my local paintball store because they sell springers and such.
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Post by: Chayote on February 20, 2004, 01:18:02 AM: I have a goggles question and figured I'd put it here rather than start a new post altogether. I found a website that I was going to buy from and noticed they sold goggles, so I took a look and found some relatively cheap. Since I was getting a Camelbak from the same site I figured I'd try em. I got the package today and the box says "This product meets the applicable performance requirements of ANSI Z87.1-1989 and CSA Z94.3-1992, high impact protector." But it also says on the inside where all the warnings are "Do not use this eyewear for paintball or simulated war activities." I don't want to mess around, but they are sealed goggles and the only way a BB could get past the plastic of the lenses is if it richochets off of my cheeks, and even then it would be hard. At the very least want to know if somebody knows why I'm not supposed to use them (just plain curiosity), or if I can anyway and why.

If it matters they are Uvex Stealth High Impact Protector safety goggles.
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Post by: azsarge on February 20, 2004, 01:38:20 AM: <blockquote id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">Originally posted by Chayote
 I have a goggles question and figured I'd put it here rather than start a new post altogether. I found a website that I was going to buy from and noticed they sold goggles, so I took a look and found some relatively cheap. Since I was getting a Camelbak from the same site I figured I'd try em. I got the package today and the box says "This product meets the applicable performance requirements of ANSI Z87.1-1989 and CSA Z94.3-1992, high impact protector." But it also says on the inside where all the warnings are "Do not use this eyewear for paintball or simulated war activities." I don't want to mess around, but they are sealed goggles and the only way a BB could get past the plastic of the lenses is if it richochets off of my cheeks, and even then it would be hard. At the very least want to know if somebody knows why I'm not supposed to use them (just plain curiosity), or if I can anyway and why.

If it matters they are Uvex Stealth High Impact Protector safety goggles.
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I'd say they are OK. They are sealed, and my guess is that the warning is a CYA measure so they don't get sued. After all, they aren't made for airsoft or tactical uises, so they could fail in certain conditions. If they are ANSI rated, they can withstand the hit. The question is will the frames take it. Part of the ANSI certification regards the frame integrity, so you should be ok. I wear shooting glasses sometimes, and have taken several direct hits to the lens without a problem.

Take good care of them, and inspect them often for failures, and you should be ok.

Then I'd save up some cash for a pair of ESS Profile NVG's or Bolle T800s.
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Post by: Chayote on February 20, 2004, 01:56:20 AM: Ok, that's what I thought, and there really isn't much for frames. There is a nice rubber seal and the lenses cover it all, only thing not covered by them is the strap, which is some decent strength rubber, which I'm thinking of replacing with some good quality velcro anyway. Once I get the money saved up I'm definatly getting some higher grade goggles, but wanted something that'll work for now.
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Post by: thatoneguy92088 on January 28, 2004, 10:26:25 AM: HEllo Again all, I have all my equpiment set out and the last thing i need to buy is some eye protection cuz i dont want to go blind. I don't want anything big like a full paintball mask, cuz then i could barely move around. I am looking for the smallest, but still the most protective things I could get. Plz post reply with price if you would be so kind.