Airsoft Arizona
Arizona Game Discussions => Local Games Listing/RSVP => Topic started by: jkapster on March 26, 2011, 12:23:06 PM
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anyone out there wanna AS on sat 3-26-2011? there are 4 of us so far. around 2-3p to 5p. We play every other week on Sat so just let me know if u want to join in. its not far at all (the field is in mesa).
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oh, we also record the games via contourHD rail mounted cam and 2 tripod field cams! (both 720p HD)
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Where is the field?
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Pioneer park.
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Do you have permission to play there?
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@ Toast - Lol...no its not pioneer park. The people there play with real guns and end up killing each other, lol
@ havhav - we have been playing at the site for a while now, it is pretty secluded away from people. Dont really wanna name the site cuz everybody and their brother will jump all over this place (lots of cool features etc). We usually all meet at safe public place so everyone is comfortable with each other before we go. Drive is about 5min.
Anyway, forgot to mention need to be 18+. No little kids crying to their mommy cuz they got shot. :mrgreen:
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Who owns the land?
Just because you've been doing it for a while doesn't make it legal for you to even be on their land.
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Lol, why u so worried bought legalities? U in trouble with the law or somethin? Its definitely legal where we play :mrgreen: and if u r so worried its ok, u dont have to play with us. O:)
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Because idiots like you playing in/on land that may or may not be privately owned is illegal.
It is shit like this that leads to bans on airsoft, and police shooting 15 year old kids holding airsoft guns.
Do I have any legal troubles? No, but both my brother in laws and sister are law enforcement in Gilbert and Mesa, they have been made aware of this.
Vanguard is right down the street. Play legally or risk our hobby.
And you wonder why people get pissed when minors want to play. You bring this upon yourselves.
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Because idiots like you playing in/on land that may or may not be privately owned is illegal.
It is s*** like this that leads to bans on airsoft, and police shooting 15 year old kids holding airsoft guns.
Do I have any legal troubles? No, but both my brother in laws and sister are law enforcement in Gilbert and Mesa, they have been made aware of this.
Vanguard is right down the street. Play legally or risk our hobby.
And you wonder why people get pissed when minors want to play. You bring this upon yourselves.
... owned..
Listen to HavHav. He's not trying to be an ass. He's doing it in the best interest of the sport and the community.
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LOl...wow so intense :mrgreen: , calm down buddy save the emotion for the field. The lot is privately owned by a guy that plays with us. Not gonna tell pple the location cuz they would probably go there without him knowing and then he would have to call ur brother in law to come pick them up! :P You can make ur cop family members aware but they wont b able to come on this property without his permission, so that was useless. Lol...as for vanguard, lol, thats for children which im assuming u r one by the way u communicate calling names and making threats. As u obvioysly may not have recalled I stated 18+ to, so none of us that play are kids. Im fully aware of laws etc, so dude just calm down and enjoy playing where u play....we will continue playing where we play! Happy ASing to u! 8)
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@ crono - dude im cool with him and anyone else who replies..who said anyone is doing anything "illegal"? Appreciate hav hav trying to protect the sport, I get that, but in this case there is nothing to protect from. But the name calling, lol, really? I just have to laugh. :P
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LOl...wow so intense :mrgreen: , calm down buddy save the emotion for the field. The lot is privately owned by a guy that plays with us. Not gonna tell pple the location cuz they would probably go there without him knowing and then he would have to call ur brother in law to come pick them up! :P You can make ur cop family members aware but they wont b able to come on this property without his permission, so that was useless. Lol...as for vanguard, lol, thats for little kids which im assuming u r one by the way u communicate calling names and making threats. Im fully aware of laws etc, so dude just calm down and enjoy playing where u play....we will continue playing where we play! Happy ASing to u! 8)
#1: HavHav is FAR from a kid. All I am going to say, but you may have just whacked a hornets nest....
#2: Regardless if it is private property or not, if the land is located withing an area where it is illegal to discharge airguns.... its illegal.
#3: If your going to have a game, please read the forum rules for games, thoughts on backyard airsofting, and the legal ramifications/acceptances of your actions. You will be much better off in the long run.
-Exr
***AND just for the record, if you don't want to be treated like a 10 year old, don't spell like one. Proper grammar is one of the easiest things you can do to promote a mature forum image.
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@ exr (and the grammar patrol) thanks man, everything is cool, land is legit. 8)
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Wow! Thought this would be a cool forum to swt up games (legal ones) against other AS teams, but not so. Robert if ur reading this, dont create a profile. Too many haters! =;
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Wow! Thought this would be a cool forum to set up games (legal ones) against other AS teams, but not so. Robert if ur reading this, don't create a profile. Too many haters! =;
If you explained that the field you play on is privately owned and it is legal to play at in the first place you wouldn't have received such a harsh welcoming. Basically if you follow the forum rules set up by the mods no one will hate on you, as you would say :lol:
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You may want to do some research, regardless if it is private property or not. If it lands inside city limits, you must abide by the laws of that city. Take Chandler for example:
Non-Firearm Weapons (i.e. B.B. Guns)
Chandler City Ordinance 11-6
It shall be unlawful within the city limits for any person to have in his possession, carry or use, except within the confines of his domicile and premises, or encased, unloaded or in an otherwise inoperable condition, any air gun, B.B. gun, gas-operated gun, or spring gun or any instrument, toy or weapons commonly known as a "peashooter", "slingshot" or "beany" or any other instrument, including but not limited to bows and arrows, made for the purpose of throwing or projecting missiles of any kind by any means whatsoever, whether such instrument is called by any name set forth above or by any other name. Parents of children who have been found to be in violation of this section shall be responsible for any damage or injury done by such children to the person or property of others in accordance with the provisions of sections 12-661 and 15-446 of the Arizona Revised Statues, 1956.
Similarly in Glendale:
Glendale specifically states that any "pneumatic or spring projectile weapon" is illegal to fire within city limits.
What HavHav is saying is that Mesa/Gilbert may have laws specifically stating that a discharge of a firearm (yes, airsoft rifles typically fall under the same law) inside the city limits is prohibited. Chandler law states otherwise since you are talking about private property. Every city/county law is different, and there have been numerous discussions on this forum about the legalities of this great game we call airsoft. This has nothing to do about maturity, or whether or not your buddy owns the property, which is perfectly fine.
Just be aware of the city ordinances. All it takes is one neighbor to call 911 or one cop to see something suspicious and another anti-gun, anti-airsoft news special is broadcasted all over the state later that same night... leading to even more stringent laws.
Noone was hating you when you showed up and asked for a game. A question was asked about the location and legality of the game because we don't want more negativity to the sport. Relax for a minute. Don't take it personal, and just see it from HavHav's perspective and maybe there'd be a little less infighting.
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@ derek- thanks for the info 8) . Im chill (its slang exr, just for u :) no hate here as stated previously in all my post. Again, no beef with anybody, just having fun playing AS. I may be new to the forum, but im not new to AS. Peace!
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I'm kinda disappointed that I'm late to the "you're an idiot party". I feel all empty inside now.
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Lol. Feel free to chime in! No offense will be taken. (unless you use bad grammar, misspell words, or use 10 yr old language....at which point Exr will use his English degree to keep you in line [smilie=armata_pdt_12.gif] )
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Lol. Feel free to chime in! No offense will be taken. (unless you use bad grammar, misspell words, or use 10 yr old language....at which point Exr will use his English degree to keep you in line [smilie=armata_pdt_12.gif] )
Economics degree actually. You don't need a degree to speak English like a normal human being. Just a brain.
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Go play at Vanguard so I can make you look like an idiot on YouTube. Its better for airsoft in general, and I can get away with trolling on my own channel.
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Awww, Exr, did somebody's feelers get hurt? [-X No worries brada (that means relax), its all in good fun. No need to be so serious all the time! 8)
@ browser 4848 - Now that's the kind of AS spirit I like to see! =D>
P.S. Vanguard is for children. Have fun playing there with the little ones! [smilie=armata_pdt_22.gif]
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Awww, Exr, did somebody's feelers get hurt? [-X No worries brada (that means relax), its all in good fun. No need to be so serious all the time! 8)
@ browser 4848 - Now that's the kind of AS spirit I like to see! =D>
P.S. Vanguard is for children. Have fun playing there with the little ones! [smilie=armata_pdt_22.gif]
Instead of alienating yourself from the community through your stupid comments, how about you actually try to listen to what people are telling you, apologize, and take it into consideration. In all honesty, it's just what we want to hear: that you're not endangering our sport.
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@crono- Please do yourself a favor buddy and read ALL the posts before commenting. Just because I don't play at Vanguard doesn't mean I'm playing illegally. As stated previously, the field is privately owned and no laws are being broken. Yes, protect the sport, we've already established that, so happy ASing to you my friend! [smilie=armata_pdt_34.gif]
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@crono- Please do yourself a favor buddy and read ALL the posts before commenting. Just because I don't play at Vanguard doesn't mean I'm playing illegally. As stated previously, the field is privately owned and no laws are being broken. Yes, protect the sport, we've already established that, so happy ASing to you my friend! [smilie=armata_pdt_34.gif]
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Perhaps you should read all the posts there bro....
Instead of alienating yourself from the community through your stupid comments, how about you actually try to listen to what people are telling you, apologize, and take it into consideration. In all honesty, it's just what we want to hear: that you're not endangering our sport.
This is where those English skills you lack in would have come in handy. Crono didn't say anything in regards to the legality of your playing, and actually backed you up in a way to end this debate, by saying you were indeed playing safe, and thats all we wanted in the first place.
Perhaps you were too busy being a smartass to notice?
Let me help you understand:
LERN 2 REED nd Spl teh wrds
It will be hard at first, but as your tiny brain develops, higher and higher thought patterns will begin to emerge! Before your itsy cortex knows whats going on... BANG! Your learning with phonics!
Your self-defense trolling, and over-compensating nature will shift, and people will cease to look at you like a total F**kstick!
Here, read this:
http://www.airsoftarizona.com/forumbb/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=29938
Lol in good fun
Keep that ass covered
Keep playing in safe areas!
<3 ur bgest fan -Exr
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I just love reading theae imminent lock threads. Tis' good for the soul. Oh, and exarch is right. You arnt going to get anywhere with the attitude you have. Believe me, argueing with someone with as much experience as Exarch, especially when the points you make are mediocre at best, just makes you look like a moron.
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)It is so funny how exr and his bff's (thats best friends forever exr) stick together, how sweet! I must be really getting to exr, seeing as how the name calling and insults have picked up. You guys are more unified then I thought. I admire that, really. I feel honored that you all take so much interest and time to reply to my posts. Thank you to all my AS brothers!
(exr, if you are wanting me to react negatively to your posts, its not going to happen. There is no hate here. Happy ASing buddy! [smilie=armata_pdt_34.gif] )
@kman-nice to meet you, welcome! [smilie=armata_pdt_12.gif]
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Also exr, vielleicht soll ich auf Deutsch sprechen dahmit du mich besser verstehen kannst? Wir koennen auch du sprache nutzen, denn wir sind freunde, nicht? [smilie=armata_pdt_18.gif]
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Also exr, vielleicht soll ich auf Deutsch sprechen dahmit du mich besser verstehen kannst? Wir koennen auch du sprache nutzen, denn wir sind freunde, nicht? [smilie=armata_pdt_18.gif]
Sorry, google says too many misspellings to translate.
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)It is so funny how exr and his bff's (thats best friends forever exr) stick together, how sweet! I must be really getting to exr, seeing as how the name calling and insults have picked up. You guys are more unified then I thought. I admire that, really. I feel honored that you all take so much interest and time to reply to my posts. Thank you to all my AS brothers!
(exr, if you are wanting me to react negatively to your posts, its not going to happen. There is no hate here. Happy ASing buddy! [smilie=armata_pdt_34.gif] )
@kman-nice to meet you, welcome! [smilie=armata_pdt_12.gif]
I've never met Exarch, and I'm not his friend (unless he wants to be :D)
I'm not unified with them, I'm just agreeing with them. Your making yourself look like a tard and I'm sure everyones respect for you is dropping rapidly, if not already completly gone. Stop digging your hole deeper, I'm pleading with you, your alienating yourself from this great resource to the point where people won't want to associate or offer assistance to you.
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I don't know about you guys, but wow. This is pissing off the wrong people. And WTF is up with all of the smilie faces?
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schade dass du google benutzen muss. ich dachte dass du klug warst! Lol
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schade dass du google benutzen muss. ich dachte dass du klug warst! Lol
Speaking in German is quite counter productive when speaking to a group of people who only speak English.
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OK, ok...ill stop with the German. O:) now can we all just be friends?
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OK guys, lets focus our efforts on something more productive. What types of games do you like to play most? Variations, etc? [smilie=armata_pdt_35.gif]
@ pixal - welcome!
@ kman - Isn't it sad that we, as Americans, don't learn more languages?
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OK guys, lets focus our efforts on something more productive. What types of games do you like to play most? Variations, etc? [smilie=armata_pdt_35.gif]
@ pixal - welcome!
@ kman - Isn't it sad that we, as Americans, don't learn more languages?
I used to study german and russian... Haven't touched it in over two years though so I forgot almost everything
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OK guys, lets focus our efforts on something more productive. What types of games do you like to play most? Variations, etc? [smilie=armata_pdt_35.gif]
@ pixal - welcome!
@ kman - Isn't it sad that we, as Americans, don't learn more languages?
I studied french for a while, aswell as spanish.