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Airsoft Hardware => AEG's => Topic started by: SpiritOfSimo on October 10, 2011, 01:44:07 PM

Title: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on October 10, 2011, 01:44:07 PM
I got a LiPo battery with female deans plugs pre-installed from Elite Airsoft Batteries. I also got a separate pair of deans male plugs to solder onto the gun. I just saw an old post that said EAB uses fake deans, and I'm really upset now.

My question is, HOW MUCH of a risk am I taking if I run a stock KWA sr12 with a 7.4v 2S LiPo battery with possible fake deans plugs on both the battery and motor?

EDIT: Can someone suggest an honest supplier that sells real Deans plugs? I see so many fakes and fraud alerts when I search for them.


UPDATE: Through research and contact with Mike F. at EAB, I am now inclined to believe that I may have received authentic deans plugs. The packaging for the plugs is labeled all over with WSdeans contact info, and by comparison to some un marked plugs, the quality of materials is higher.

I have a multimeter, can someone tell me what sort of test I should run and what numerical values I can look for to validate that these are real deans plugs? I'd love to retract my previous skepticism if it turns out these are real Deans plugs.

Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: jdmsquadleader on October 10, 2011, 01:52:44 PM
most radio control hobby shops should carry real deans plugs and im guessing gearbox should carry em too deans plugs should be red but not have the ripples on em if there black that can be suspect too
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: DMAN007 on October 10, 2011, 02:05:50 PM
Hobby Town... Thats where I buy mine from. Real deans come in a package that look like this
(http://www.rcdude.com/catalog/DeansUM2Pack-crop.jpg)
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: SLINKEY on October 10, 2011, 02:14:27 PM
hobby bench, there like 2 bucks for a bag of 2
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: XavierMace on October 10, 2011, 03:47:19 PM
I wouldn't say there's a "risk" using the knock off Dean's plugs but you are going to lose some of the advantages.  The knock off plugs melt easier when soldering and have a higher resistance than genuine Dean's plugs.
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: stealthmaster14 on October 10, 2011, 06:13:39 PM
I wouldn't say there's a "risk" using the knock off Dean's plugs but you are going to lose some of the advantages.  The knock off plugs melt easier when soldering and have a higher resistance than genuine Dean's plugs.

Is that a for sure thing?  Reason I ask is because supposedly cheapbatterypacks.com/eliteairsoftbatteries.com uses "fake" deans plugs. I would think a reputable company like that would use authentic deans, but apparently they don't.  I've never owned real deans, so I can't say myself, but a trustworthy tech mentioned CBP/EAB uses fake deans.

I've had no problems with "fake deans."  I got a set of 20 connectors (10 male, 10 female) from hobbyking.com for like $10.  They appear to be gold plated (or at least they have the gold color.....so idk...) and I believe they are made of a nylon fiber material. 

I've "heard" the hobbyking deans actually resist more to melting when soldering compared to authentic deans plugs.  I don't know if that's true, but you won't have any problems using fake deans in my experience.  They always improved the trigger response time, ROF, and sometimes even battery life (because of the lower resistance) in all my guns. 
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: XavierMace on October 10, 2011, 06:22:32 PM
I wouldn't say there's a "risk" using the knock off Dean's plugs but you are going to lose some of the advantages.  The knock off plugs melt easier when soldering and have a higher resistance than genuine Dean's plugs.

Is that a for sure thing?  Reason I ask is because supposedly cheapbatterypacks.com/eliteairsoftbatteries.com uses "fake" deans plugs. I would think a reputable company like that would use authentic deans, but apparently they don't.  I've never owned real deans, so I can't say myself, but a trustworthy tech mentioned CBP/EAB uses fake deans.

I've had no problems with "fake deans."  I got a set of 20 connectors (10 male, 10 female) from hobbyking.com for like $10.  They appear to be gold plated (or at least they have the gold color.....so idk...) and I believe they are made of a nylon fiber material. 

I've "heard" the hobbyking deans actually resist more to melting when soldering compared to authentic deans plugs.  I don't know if that's true, but you won't have any problems using fake deans in my experience.  They always improved the trigger response time, ROF, and sometimes even battery life (because of the lower resistance) in all my guns. 

I've also heard the fake ones from HobbyKing ARE better quality than most of the knock offs but haven't personally used theirs.  They are the only copies I've heard of that are actually Gold Plated like Genuine Dean's.  G&P's knock offs are pretty good copies, once again better than most knock offs, but still not AS good as genuine.  I've got several generic China knock offs that just suck.  I can't find where I saved the numbers, but the resistance of Dean's is lower than both the generic Chinese knocks and the G&P's I have.
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on October 11, 2011, 08:51:28 AM
First post updated: It seems like I might have actually received authentic Deans plugs. Can anyone tell me how to set up a multimeter test to get numerical data on resistance and resistivity so that I can compare these plugs?
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: Dayton on October 11, 2011, 03:10:45 PM
plug the two halves of the Deans together, (make sure they are not hooked up to a battery, use a spare set) then set your multimeter to Ohms. Put one lead on one end, then the other lead on the other end.

Your going to want to use a multimeter capable of reading mili-ohms.
Title: Re: What's the level of risk with fake deans plugs?
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on October 12, 2011, 08:24:59 AM
plug the two halves of the Deans together, (make sure they are not hooked up to a battery, use a spare set) then set your multimeter to Ohms. Put one lead on one end, then the other lead on the other end.

Your going to want to use a multimeter capable of reading mili-ohms.

What numerical value should I be expecting? I need a value from real deans plugs to compare mine to.