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General Airsoft Arizona => General Airsoft Discussion => Topic started by: The Squawkin' Chicken on November 21, 2011, 07:44:10 PM

Title: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: The Squawkin' Chicken on November 21, 2011, 07:44:10 PM
I've only been in the forum a short time - but it's pretty clear there's not many places to play in the Valley. I've put a bit of thought and Google map browsing into this. I have no idea what sort of history local players have with governments and property owners, so bear with me. I have some ideas for possible locations - some are fairly central, with the others more to the east. Any thoughts on these, whether about suitability or where to start in getting permission?

Near Reach 11 Sports Complex (Phoenix) - Some options east. Government bureaucracy an obvious concern.
National Cemetery of Arizona (Phoenix) - Maybe southeast of the cemetery?
Evergreen Golf Course (Salt River Maricopa Indian Community) - One McDowell, between Country Club and Alma School. Abandoned, in disrepair, easy access.
Scottsdale 6 drive-in (SRMIC) - Closed for now. Maybe not much cover, awesome location. Completely walled in.
Gila River Memorial Airport (Chandler) - No flight operations, easy access. Owned by Gila River Airport Authority (ie, tribal government). Huge space, good ground cover but also lots of bare space.

Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Red Devil on November 21, 2011, 07:53:17 PM
Ohh you are gonna get replies for this post. Some not so positive.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: The Squawkin' Chicken on November 21, 2011, 07:56:11 PM
Fair enough. I'm interested in helping, and the starting points are figuring out the boundaries and asking questions.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: printezis on November 21, 2011, 08:04:09 PM
It seems that you have put some thought into this.. and i think we could use another field South of Phx, as there are quite a few North (including Hatfield, Fort Adobe, Fighter Town, the Rebel Union games, etc.) Also, there was another thread posted from some people in Ahwatukee looking for places near by.
It would be interesting to hear what others have to say about the options you posted.

Gila River Memorial Airport sounds great.. but as you mentioned, although not operational, it is owned by the Airport Authority.
Doesn't that mean that you need their permission to use the area?

As for Scottsdale 6 Drive-In, i believe it is too close to the street. I believe that you -have to- stay out of sight if you are going to do this in a rather populated area.

The Evergreen Golf Course looks promising, but who owns that place?
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Red Devil on November 21, 2011, 08:04:51 PM
I was told as a train of thought. If you can use a real firearm out there its probably ok to play there. I also live in the east valley and have some feelers out there. I know some of the vets will steer  you in the right direction.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: The Squawkin' Chicken on November 21, 2011, 08:10:32 PM
Gila River Memorial Airport sounds great.. but as you mentioned, although not operational, it is owned by the Airport Authority.
Doesn't that mean that you need their permission to use the area?

As for Scottsdale 6 Drive-In, i believe it is too close to the street. I believe that you -have to- stay out of sight if you are going to do this in a rather populated area.

The Evergreen Golf Course looks promising, but who owns that place?

We'd need permission in any of these places. We just have to ask the right people, and the worst they can say is "no." But a "yes" or two changes things for this forum. The drive-in, if I remember right, has a nice thick wall to hide everything from excitable eyes.

Evergreen - my favorite by far. There's gotta be a fence up around the place, possibly with a phone number. That's where I'd start. The county also has property ownership maps online - it'll take me some time to dig around to see if it covers the reservation.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Red Devil on November 21, 2011, 08:15:19 PM
Check with bureau of land management. I spoke to them briefly and you cam get a permit to play on that land. There is also a place at the end  of peralta trail head you can play at with a tonto pass. Now I don't know if its a pass per vehicle or for everybody.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: tombomb on November 21, 2011, 09:20:54 PM
Here's good places to airsoft and these are all in Phoenix:

40th Street dead end that's south of Jomax Rd.
The desert south of the neighborhood that's southeast of Tatum and Jomax
The SW corner of 16th Street and Deer Valley Rd (Union Mine)
The NW corner of 16th Street and Deer Valley Rd (old rock quarry abandoned since 1981)
Where Desert Peak Pkwy dead ends which is west of Cave Creek Rd and Pinnacle Peak Rd.
Where Cave Creek Dam Road dead ends which is in that neighborhood NW of Cave Creek Rd and Deer Valley Rd
The watering hole at the 56th Street alignment north of Pinnacle Peak Rd.
The desert north of 7th Street and Alameda Dr.
The Desert west of North Valley Pkwy and Bronco Butte Dr.

If you can't find these places using Google Maps, Bing Maps, etc.  for the love of God don't PM me about it.  I'm just throwing places out there.  This information is solely for entertainment purposes only and should not be construed as places that are "legal" to engage in "airsoft" "airsofting" "milsim" and any other activity that utilizes replica firearms that project bbs.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on November 21, 2011, 09:42:00 PM
Good spot: just west of Picketpost Trailhead off US 60 west of Superior. Forest Service administered, miles of variable terrain. Car accessible, held games there before. Named it "Picketpost Warrior AO".
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: deathbydanish on November 22, 2011, 06:34:55 PM
Good spot: just west of Picketpost Trailhead off US 60 west of Superior. Forest Service administered, miles of variable terrain. Car accessible, held games there before. Named it "Picketpost Warrior AO".

I remember the last time I was out there, some snow had just fallen and the temps were just right. It might be a bit of a drive for some people, but its still a beautiful place to host a game at.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Red Devil on November 22, 2011, 07:18:26 PM
Mooncruiser do you have map coordinates for that place? If so send them to me.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: wolfenblaze on December 05, 2011, 03:36:18 AM
also lets not forget there some abandon military airfields and bases here in  AZ like Dateland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dateland_Army_Airfield (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dateland_Army_Airfield)   also i found this website of abandon ww2 airfields many sadly which  are now housing and job places but there still a few fields left untouched we can look at. http://www.airfields-freeman.com/AZ/Airfields_AZ.htm (http://www.airfields-freeman.com/AZ/Airfields_AZ.htm)

who knows one day we have a airsoft battle involving  Camo painted Twin prop planes dropping off Blufor into opfor base ^_^.

Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: The Squawkin' Chicken on December 05, 2011, 08:26:39 PM
I've spent no small amount of time on that abandoned airfields site. I also found this on a website about ghost towns and abandoned places: http://www.ghosttownaz.info/casa-grande-domes.php (http://www.ghosttownaz.info/casa-grande-domes.php)

I figure a place like that would make DarrK go crazy.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Wolfz on December 28, 2011, 12:55:46 AM
the drive in sounds like fun. Add some cars (ones at the junkyard) for added realism. Maybe put up some buildings...   Ah, the imagination is such a fun thing. But either way, I could easily draw that up. And it would be quite a bit of fun to play at. CQB and Field... in one. You could use the middle building for meeting up. I would have so much fun with this idea.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on December 28, 2011, 05:21:06 PM
-ultimate sniper skill game spot, right across I-17 from Sunset Point Rest Area.
Tall grass and lava rock. Desert everywhere too.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: SLINKEY on December 28, 2011, 06:15:28 PM
-ultimate sniper skill game spot, right across I-17 from Sunset Point Rest Area.
Tall grass and lava rock. Desert everywhere too.

LMAO!, i call the top of the hill with the bush.. tree thing.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on December 28, 2011, 07:50:03 PM
Heh! You can truly call yourself a Milsim Sniper Badass if you play there, right Andy?
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Ivan on December 28, 2011, 09:47:30 PM
I know the owner of a pretty nice sized junkyard in Wittmann. Im pretty sure if we tossed him a few bucks a player that we would be able to play there. it's a pretty big hunk of land - think 5 times the size of fightertowns field
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on December 28, 2011, 10:52:42 PM
Of course, we would have to be careful near the meth lab by that old junked school bus..
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on December 28, 2011, 11:15:07 PM
Joking! But really, the idea of a fight in a large junkyard is pretty cool IMO. I'd gladly pay five or even ten to play there.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: BlackDragon21 on December 28, 2011, 11:16:26 PM
If the place is good and fun to play in and depending on the area i wouldn't might putting up 5 bucks to play either.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: SLINKEY on December 29, 2011, 12:50:20 AM
im down for a junk yard game, haha!
ill be by the bus with chip lol
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: wolfenblaze on December 29, 2011, 12:58:19 AM
im down for a junk yard game, haha!
ill be by the bus with chip lol

i call the sniper tower made of stacked cars. and also any 67 challanger parts ^_^
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: The Squawkin' Chicken on December 29, 2011, 04:05:34 PM
I know the owner of a pretty nice sized junkyard in Wittmann. Im pretty sure if we tossed him a few bucks a player that we would be able to play there. it's a pretty big hunk of land - think 5 times the size of fightertowns field

That sounds awesome to me.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Red Devil on December 29, 2011, 05:28:07 PM
There was a guy on the forum talking about looking for a team to sponsor a field out in the easy valley. It was a couple months ago. I tried getting in contact with him a couple times but no luck. I can't remember who he was?
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: ghosthollow53 on December 29, 2011, 05:32:08 PM
There was a guy on the forum talking about looking for a team to sponsor a field out in the easy valley. It was a couple months ago. I tried getting in contact with him a couple times but no luck. I can't remember who he was?
This one?

http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=31415.0 (http://www.airsoftarizona.com/index.php?topic=31415.0)
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Ivan on December 29, 2011, 10:03:36 PM
here's the layout -  use the cars for size reference.. - the whole area from the bottom over to the right past the screen and up to the fencelines is a viable place to play.

(http://i1214.photobucket.com/albums/cc494/saguarow6/ReedsJunkyard.jpg)
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Armyra on December 29, 2011, 10:59:53 PM
Yeah I know that place I used to live in wittmann for 7yrs
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: BreechUnClear on December 29, 2011, 11:44:36 PM
shoot keep this game posted soon with a price an age limit and it should be pretty awesome
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Bambi-troopers on December 30, 2011, 12:23:13 AM
Yea, get that game going!!! And if theres an age limit, Make it 16+ lol.

Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Ivan on December 30, 2011, 12:35:51 AM
We'd have to print out waivers for the owners. It'll be 18+ up if I run it.... unless you are bambi troopers or you are over 15 and your adult guardian plays too.. case to case basis...  let me see what I can pull together.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Wolfz on December 30, 2011, 01:51:43 AM
Yea, get that game going!!! And if theres an age limit, Make it 16+ lol.

naw! make it 14, then i would be able to go.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Polie on December 30, 2011, 02:51:55 AM
I dont usually respond to 'these' kind of posts, but this place would be cool. 18+, Helmets required, and full ankle support boots.  There is a legality behind 18+, not trying to exclude anyone but even with the best waiver in the world one can still be sued by angry parents, it has happened before.  You may be the best kid in the world, but the liability is just way to high.   Anyways here is a video of the place:

Relic (Abandoned Phoenix Trotting Park) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvAYRKz50Y#ws)
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: yammie r6s on December 30, 2011, 09:22:15 AM
I dont usually respond to 'these' kind of posts, but this place would be cool. 18+, Helmets required, and full ankle support boots.  There is a legality behind 18+, not trying to exclude anyone but even with the best waiver in the world one can still be sued by angry parents, it has happened before.  You may be the best kid in the world, but the liability is just way to high.   Anyways here is a video of the place:

Relic (Abandoned Phoenix Trotting Park) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wGvAYRKz50Y#ws)
We have been over this one a hundred times on the forum here. The place is not abandoned it is private property hence fence with signs every 10 feet and it is filled with asbestos and birdshit health hazards. I hope no one is dumb enough to try and setup a game at this track
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Bambi-troopers on December 30, 2011, 10:15:40 AM
How about black canyon greyhound park. Its abandoned....This place seems kinda cool. Every time we drive past it, i think to myself how cool it would be to play there.
http://www.ghosttownaz.info/black-canyon-greyhound-park.php (http://www.ghosttownaz.info/black-canyon-greyhound-park.php)
And heres a video of it found on youtube.
 Black Canyon Greyhound Park.AVI (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LFx6Fp1sr0c#)
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Rockit on December 30, 2011, 10:36:18 AM
^ this place looks sick.  :o I want to leave work right now and check it out!
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on December 30, 2011, 11:06:48 AM
Screw the asbestos Ivan, ask the owner anyway.
Asbestos, helmets.. Sheesh.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: BreechUnClear on December 30, 2011, 11:13:25 AM
Im with Moon. Bring the hazards. Its not like I cant jump through windows at this one.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Mooncruiser on December 30, 2011, 11:23:27 AM
Gotta be careful, everyone knows that when you shoot a car, it EXPLODES INTO A HUGE FIREBALL.. Just like on tv..
Gawd.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: BreechUnClear on December 30, 2011, 11:26:57 AM
when you hit the engine block or the gas tank?
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Armyra on December 30, 2011, 11:28:07 AM
 Really that's awesome I like to blow shit up
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: The Squawkin' Chicken on December 30, 2011, 11:50:27 AM
We'd have to print out waivers for the owners.

Nice! By the way, anyone noticing the former Chrysler proving grounds just north of the junk yard? And the abandoned Luke auxiliary field west of Fightertown? Mmmmmm ...
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: ThatGuy on December 30, 2011, 12:00:50 PM
About time Ivan  we only talked about the junk yard think 8 months ago.
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: ColdFire on January 24, 2012, 06:11:13 PM
Hey let me know too if a game gets scheduled out at the dump please! That would be an awesome place to play!
Title: Re: Thinking about the lack of Airsoft areas
Post by: Fresnel on January 24, 2012, 11:56:30 PM
We'd have to print out waivers for the owners.

Nice! By the way, anyone noticing the former Chrysler proving grounds just north of the junk yard? And the abandoned Luke auxiliary field west of Fightertown? Mmmmmm ...
I'm fairly certain neither of those is abandoned. I've seen cars turning into and out of the Chrysler proving grounds before, and even if there's nobody there that auxiliary field is still in use. They've had to make a couple emergency landings there in the past few years, and if we started using it for airsoft, they'd probably find the pellets hanging around and post a guard to catch us. I'm really liking the Wittmann junkyard idea, a junkyard game sounds like a ton of fun.

But you guys should keep going, my list of places to dump a dead hooker is ten times as long as it used to be.