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Title: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 14, 2012, 08:05:13 AM
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Backstory:
Civil unrest caused by heavy taxation of agricultural commodities has led to an insurrection.  Seeking a speedy resolution to the insurrection, the local government has sent 3,000 soldiers to reinforce local police. Several hundred soldiers mutinied, handing over large small-arms caches to the rebels. The government also sent several hundred Southwest Youth Association members, a group of anti-communist refugees as part of a paramilitary force.

The Lt. General, commander of the government military force in the province, attempted to end the insurrection peacefully by negotiating with the rebels. Neither side could agree on conditions. The government wanted what amounted to a complete surrender and the rebels demanded disarmament of the local police, dismissal of all governing officials in the province, prohibition of paramilitary youth groups in the province and re-unification of the currently divided country. The Lt. General was suddenly recalled to the capital over his conciliatory approach with the rebels and was surprised when his replacement mounted a sustained offensive against the rebels by the end of the spring.

Due to the extreme political differences, and the rarity of local energy resources, the two warring parties have sought outside military consultation.  It is rumored that there are at least three high-ranking military officers on each side.

The U.N. has intervened and is forcing the two warring factions to the table for an armstice.  This armstice is to be signed within four hours.  With little time left, every inch of the local land will be paid for in blood.  The assasination of the outside military consultants is also highly probable and expected.

When : June 16th Chrono & Check in 0800  Safety brief 0900 Boots on ground 0915  That means showing up at 0700 would be the best thing to do. Game starts at 0915 sharp.
Where ? Strawberry AZ 34.45091,-111.417798  Picture and map of the area to follow posted by tonight 5-14
Admission - FREE

 AO GOOGLE MAP! (https://maps.google.com/maps?saddr=Mesa,+AZ&daddr=AZ-260+W%2FAZ-87+N+to:AZ-87+N&hl=en&sll=34.45374,-111.433972&sspn=0.006671,0.013937&geocode=FRDg_QEdUJZV-SnBksXAwqcrhzEbd05pFcIP0Q%3BFaS6DQIdgJRb-Q%3BFXKuDQIdiOVb-Q&t=h&gl=us&mra=dme&mrsp=1&sz=17&z=17)

RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)

Age Requirements at 18+ Minors must have a Parent or Guardian that is attending the game and PLAYING alongside the minor. NO EXCEPTIONS ID's will be checked at the gate.

RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)  415 w/ 25s at 30ft  minimum engagement distance. 75 FT SNIPER MINIMUM ENGAGEMENT DISTANCE

Phantom guys will be camping out the night before for anyone who wants to camp.

We are hosting a large event up in Strawberry. This is a great AO if anyone has ever played here. Average Temperature is in the low 70's during the summer.
Camping out the night prior is encouraged.

Scenario will be provided in the coming days.  There will be 5 control points and a bomb to defuse. (Bomb used at Cold burn)

There will be a website setup with the rules of engagement. This game will NOT follow traditional AA rules.
FPS rules to follow on website RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)

IRC channel for real time questions and answers regarding the OP http://teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/Forums.html (http://teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/Forums.html)

Register here REGISTRATION FORM (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/embeddedform?formkey=dEY3S0t2WVBsT19fMjBwa2lJcEFGWXc6MQ)


I will update how many registrants daily on this thread.

FYI: IF YOU CAMP THE FRIDAY NIGHT BEFORE YOU CANNOT HAVE A CAMPFIRE DUE TO RESTRICTIONS


RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
____________________________________________________
Green( ACU, BDU, Tigerstripe Russian etc..) Total 33
Phantom +3
Red Devil (Saguaro)
TanTrick (Saguaro)
SvaTaz
Thatguy (Saguaro)
Shadowviper +2
Cannonak47
Skeptikz   (Shinigami) +3
Carbon14c (Saguaro)
searscr
AF1Fighter
SpiritOfSimo +4
Hartman
Levi
Henderson +2
Edgar +4
Dippold
B3ANZOR +2 (Lights out)
Airsofter1 +2 (CT)
____________________________________________________
Tan (MC, DCU etc..) Total 38

Phantom +3
Nukeduster (DC OPS)
Foxide (DC OPS)
Ryllian (DC OPS)
AZilla
Avex_Wolf +2
Scooter
Artac+3
Glass
Brandenburg (DC OPS)
Rogue Fox (Poachers) +5
Hyllecool (Mile High Airsoft) +3
Parley
Mike
Winters +2   
Honey Badgers +8
Moose
Weir +2

ROSTER UPDATED 6-15-2012



Need more green!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: nukeduster on May 14, 2012, 11:28:29 AM
Ill be there in multicam. I love playing up there. Time to get the ghillie suit out of the duffle bag.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: svataz on May 14, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
Green for me
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: DMAN007 on May 14, 2012, 12:14:50 PM
Wish I could make it to this! I'll be out of town that weekend.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on May 14, 2012, 03:31:47 PM
Forest game???? YEEEES!

Can't wait! Been eager for a forest game ever since The Battle for Prescottonia last year.

Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: ThatGuy on May 14, 2012, 04:11:45 PM
Forest game???? YEEEES!

Can't wait! Been eager for a forest game ever since The Battle for Prescottonia last year.



We'll be hosting another one after Lc


And green for me please.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 14, 2012, 06:09:14 PM
The Rules are posted. READ UP

RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Dayton on May 14, 2012, 06:13:24 PM
BRING A WATCH

and a medic rag. :)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: carbon14c on May 15, 2012, 03:21:02 AM
i'll most likely be camping.

also, looks like there is no option for 'just me (+0)' in the 'how many people are you bringing' field within the registration form.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: AZilla on May 15, 2012, 04:42:11 AM
Just registered for tan.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Dayton on May 15, 2012, 05:52:26 AM
i'll most likely be camping.

also, looks like there is no option for 'just me (+0)' in the 'how many people are you bringing' field within the registration form.

Good point. Just ignore the "+" during registration. (So register for +1)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: bigwavedave on May 15, 2012, 07:12:51 AM
green for me. but just wondering how the Gladiator fire might effect this game by the 16th.

 the gladiator fire will be long gone by june 16th however a forest  closure may affect any games on the forests through out june and july. 
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: foxide on May 15, 2012, 07:48:26 PM
ill be there with nuke in multicam!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Warlord on May 15, 2012, 09:33:43 PM
As of right now i am pretty sure i can come, too early to see. I will be bringing more people, ill keep you posted as i get solid info.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 16, 2012, 07:41:09 AM
I will have pictures of the AO and a Google Map up on Monday.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Warlord on May 16, 2012, 05:10:58 PM
Forest game???? YEEEES!

Can't wait! Been eager for a forest game ever since The Battle for Prescottonia last year.

We hosted one a couple weeks ago in the rim, it was awesome, we mainly played through the night and throughout the day saturday. It was when the moon was closest to the earth.

Snipers had the best advantage.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Dayton on May 16, 2012, 09:30:38 PM
The game is definitely a go unless there is a closure, But one of our team members works for the Forest Service, (working on the fire atm) and will inform us of any closures affecting our play. If anything happens, we will be sure to let you all know.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: AF1Fighter on May 17, 2012, 10:11:52 PM
Signed 8)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: vibora on May 18, 2012, 12:02:24 PM
The 450fps w/ .25g bbs limit wasn't a misprint was it?  I could understand if you meant .2g bbs, but with safety distance set at 50 feet, that's pretty hot.  I know I bitch on these boards a lot about FPS limits, but I was going to bring my team out to this event, and I would like to make sure it'll be safe.  That doesn't sound very safe to me; I've seen eyepro fail at those velocities, and I've never met a teenager who overestimated safety distances.  Any chance you could change it to something a little slower?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on May 18, 2012, 05:50:54 PM
The 450fps w/ .25g bbs limit wasn't a misprint was it?  I could understand if you meant .2g bbs, but with safety distance set at 50 feet, that's pretty hot...

Any chance you could change it to something a little slower?

This is going to be out in the forest. The average engagement distance will be generously greater than 50 feet, with the only exceptions being:

1) Negligent Discharges by team mates, or
2) you step on a patch of grass that turns out to be a ghillie suit, and      ::cue pokemon music::

"A wild sniper appears!"

Realistically, I think losing a tooth more likely, so bring mouth pro if you're still (understandably) concerned. Last year in prescott, I almost took a face full of friendly fire because a team mate just happened to get startled by me in my ghillie suit (and I was standing still!)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Warlord on May 18, 2012, 09:30:06 PM
The 450fps w/ .25g bbs limit wasn't a misprint was it?  I could understand if you meant .2g bbs, but with safety distance set at 50 feet, that's pretty hot.  I know I bitch on these boards a lot about FPS limits, but I was going to bring my team out to this event, and I would like to make sure it'll be safe.  That doesn't sound very safe to me; I've seen eyepro fail at those velocities, and I've never met a teenager who overestimated safety distances.  Any chance you could change it to something a little slower?

Its not extreme, we all wear paintball masks and shoot each other point blank sometimes with 430 fps with .2g its fine. I honestly have never seen our goggles fail under any fps we have put them too including a point blank sniper test (500fps point blank), it left almost no trace.

Might consider getting better protection, just my 2 cents.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Shadow on May 19, 2012, 10:23:10 AM
The 450fps w/ .25g bbs limit wasn't a misprint was it?  I could understand if you meant .2g bbs, but with safety distance set at 50 feet, that's pretty hot.  I know I bitch on these boards a lot about FPS limits, but I was going to bring my team out to this event, and I would like to make sure it'll be safe.  That doesn't sound very safe to me; I've seen eyepro fail at those velocities, and I've never met a teenager who overestimated safety distances.  Any chance you could change it to something a little slower?

The intention is to go "one step up" in terms of joules and increase the engagement distance.  Normally, AA games are 419fps w/0.2g, which is 1.62J (375 w/0.25g).  Our speeds would put it at 2.3J, which is still significantly lower than AA sniper speeds with a MED 25 feet further (3.32J).  We'll discuss it, possibly putting it still higher than the norm 1.62J but not as hot as 2.3J.

I'll give you a little hint though: it obviously looks like the purpose of this game is working already :) It's meant to encourage more tactical decisions because there are stiffer consequences.  Knowing the other guy is shooting hotter than normal may help you think twice about running-and-gunning.  But yes, we are also considering safety...

Also, there's a reason why the game is limited to 18+.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: carbon14c on May 19, 2012, 01:44:11 PM
the higher energy limits are what attracted me to this event in the first place... just sayin'
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: vibora on May 19, 2012, 04:22:39 PM
I guess I just don't understand then.  I can reasonably see going up to 450 w/.2 g BBs, as I understand it is an outdoor forest event.  However, putting the FPS limits above what is realistically capable in an AEG (seemingly just because you can) is my problem.  I know there probably won't be any anybody cranking full auto at 475fps with .2s, but the possibility of someone attempting it gives me pause.  I also see the chances of this going down dramatically with this event being an "18 and over" thing, but still.  I hope you see my point.  I also understand that this is still not up to the "sniper" fps limits; that's why they are sniper limits.  The point is to give snipers a distinct range advantage; when everybody is shooting AEGs as hot as your limits are set, that advantage is eliminated (if not severely cut back).  BBs can only go so far, gentlemen.

Its not extreme, we all wear paintball masks and shoot each other point blank sometimes with 430 fps with .2g its fine. I honestly have never seen our goggles fail under any fps we have put them too including a point blank sniper test (500fps point blank), it left almost no trace.

Might consider getting better protection, just my 2 cents.

See above points.  It is a little extreme.  What you want to do with your buddies is on you, but if you shoot me point blank with a gun shooting that hot, you should expect a boot up your ass.  If I attended this event, I would most certainly be wearing my mask (Dye i4), so sufficient protection isn't an issue for me.  Honestly, wearing anything less than full face protection would be asking for trouble.  However, in this case, I speak for others who may show up at this event without a great set of eyepro.  As long as a point is made by the game admins to check these, it shouldn't be an issue.

I'll give you a little hint though: it obviously looks like the purpose of this game is working already :) It's meant to encourage more tactical decisions because there are stiffer consequences.  Knowing the other guy is shooting hotter than normal may help you think twice about running-and-gunning.  But yes, we are also considering safety...

Lastly, I really don't understand this whole "fps is faster, play automatically becomes more tacticool" idea.  I've heard it on these boards a couple of times (usually when I bring up this point ;)), and I can't even describe how much I disagree with this.  All it does is encourage camping and injuries.  You will not lessen people's stupidity with added pain, nor will your head be on more of a swivel than it already was (if it is, you were doing something wrong).  Tactical awareness is there or it isn't; it doesn't work in degrees.  In short, I can figure out that flanking maneuver was a stupid idea without having to dig BBs out of my arm.  On the flipside, that guy you just caught making a bad tactical decision is still out, whether you shot him with a pellet going 350fps or 450fps.  Causing him more pain than is necessary to "punish" him (or her) for that decision just doesn't make sense to me.


If anybody wishes to continue this discussion via PM, please feel free to message me.  I am from the PacNW, and they do things a little different up there.  I honestly would love to talk to a senior member of this community about this issue in particular, and why you guys do what you do.  For real, before I stop threadjacking, I am not trying to diss this event, or personally call out any of the people who posted here.  I want to bring my team out to an event that's not just us and not in Prescott (it's boring here ;D), and this looks like a great game to do that.  Thanks to TPA_shadow for working with me on this issue.  As long as safety is a priority, I will be signing up about 4 for tan in a couple days.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: -MAD- SARGE on May 19, 2012, 05:17:53 PM
The intention is to go "one step up" in terms of joules and increase the engagement distance.  Normally, AA games are 419fps w/0.2g, which is 1.62J (375 w/0.25g).  Our speeds would put it at 2.3J, which is still significantly lower than AA sniper speeds with a MED 25 feet further (3.32J).  We'll discuss it, possibly putting it still higher than the norm 1.62J but not as hot as 2.3J.

AA fps rules for AEGs have always been 400fps with 0.2 gram bb.  which is 1.48J, not 1.62J. 

As for my personal opinion, the average player can't judge minimum engagement distances if their life depended on it, I'd let them shoot close and make them run to cover to get into effective engagement distances. I know the field has a lot of open ground to cover where you are probably hoping the fps increase will help to balance this out but there are also plenty of areas that you can get in fairly close.  I too don't see how an increase of fps, increases tactical play but to each their own.   

The game host can set their own FPS limits as long as they are clearly posted before hand and the player so chooses to attend, full knowing those limits and minimum engagement distances.     
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: berzerker on May 20, 2012, 02:16:28 PM
I'm in not sure if I'm camping or not though.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: carbon14c on May 20, 2012, 02:55:12 PM
However, putting the FPS limits above what is realistically capable in an AEG (seemingly just because you can) is my problem.  I know there probably won't be any anybody cranking full auto at 475fps with .2s, but the possibility of someone attempting it gives me pause.

three words for you: polarstar fusion engine

Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Shdsteel on May 20, 2012, 03:25:35 PM
Are cannons allowed?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: svataz on May 20, 2012, 03:28:43 PM
We will be there Fri camping out.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Dayton on May 20, 2012, 04:22:00 PM
Are cannons allowed?

What do you mean by "cannons"?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Artac on May 20, 2012, 08:15:54 PM
Hey this sounds fun, you count me in. I will have 3 buddies tagging along with another one that's a maybe. So just 4 spots for now please. On the desert team, thanks!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 21, 2012, 07:21:18 AM
To appease the people who will complain about anything if they find a reason. The 450 has been reduced to. 415FPS with .25g but will still  respect the 50ft engagement rule.   415 is under 2 joules of energy.


I don't want to hear anything more about it. If you don't like it go play speed ball and a zombie match somewhere else. This is Mil-sim. Exactly why we setup the game as we did. 

Also to the gentleman that mentioned Polar star... This game has nothing to do with it. There will be no more discussion on this matter.

 I simply don't care to hear people complain about an event that is held for free ... I understand your concerns about safety. however, keep in mind that a sniper still shoots 550 at other games and no one complains about that. 


End of discussion.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: chinole on May 21, 2012, 07:28:38 AM
Is your team running polar stars still?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: Shadow on May 21, 2012, 07:32:56 AM
Is your team running polar stars still?

Only two of us, and both of them are DMR setup for single shot only.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN 2 June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 21, 2012, 08:24:37 AM
Except I wasn't intending on playing instead officiating.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Rockit on May 21, 2012, 02:04:23 PM
Anyone not camping the Friday night before who could offer a ride early Saturday morning? I'm right off the I-17 so I'd be on the way for most anyone.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on May 21, 2012, 02:48:46 PM
ill be running my polar star m4, capable of full auto at the limit determined by this game but dont worry...i know how/when to fire and usually stick to 3 round bursts :)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 21, 2012, 03:11:04 PM
I just want people to realize we are trying to setup the game to make it where people are more apt to think before they act in this game. We want people to develop a whole different outlook on how to attack a point instead of running in and gunning.  To enforce a more tactical solution on an objective than a typical airsoft OP.

Our whole thought about these rules surrounding the FPS is that. When you are assaulting an objective you would have to think twice about your plan of attack. That it wouldn't be so easy to take a flag, thus having to develop different strategies for each objective. So you will have your long range Rifleman and your short range.   Short range being those moving in on an objective with a sidearm.

We are simply trying to provide a different and possibly better experience to airsoft. If you have concerns that's understandable. That is what the IRC channel is for. Take all your concerns there. Several people have already logged in and asked questions. I appreciate everyone who has so far.


Team Phantom IRC page (http://teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/Forums.html)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 21, 2012, 03:24:26 PM
FYI POLARSTAR OWNERS

Your Replica will be CHRONOGRAPHED at a full 120 PSI. If you Chrono hot at 120PSI you wont be able to use it .
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: vibora on May 21, 2012, 10:25:39 PM
How exactly is the thread for the event the wrong place to ask questions or voice concerns about the event?  I don't understand.  Like I said, I'm not trying to bash your event; I had a safety concern that I respectfully asked to be explained.  So, stop whining about people asking legitimate questions about your event, and unwad your panties.  I am not going to withhold my comments because you call your event "milsim" (whatever the hell that means anyway) or because it's free.  I want to come to this game, and I thought I would suggest a lower FPS limit.  In the end, the way you want to run your game is up to you, and I thank you and your team for rethinking that power limit.  However, don't subliminally call out myself or whoever else agrees with me with some childish response concerning "people who complain about anything if they find a reason."  I live and play airsoft in the same terrain that this event is going to be held in, and I actually haven't ever played speedball (unless you were talking about CQC, in which case, my last time playing that game type was in 2010).  Bringing zombie games up made no sense in the first place, so I won't even go there.  Where we play up here, 400fps w/.2g BBs has seemed to work for my team every weekend for the past 2 years, and I thought flags were hard enough to take without people camping them from 100 feet away.  So to really end this discussion (because I'm pretty sure I will decide when to stop giving input) do what you want.  It's your event.  I see my constructive criticism was taken poorly, and now that I know that I wasn't allowed to give my input about a free game anyway because it's free and says milsim in the OP ::), I will shut up now.

For cereal though, in response to your earlier comment, no one complains about sniper power limits being set where they are because they have a fairly long MED, and they can't rip a burst of full auto at 550fps w/.2g BBs.  I guess if someone wanted to use .2g BBs, they could, but I wouldn't be too worried about them hitting me outside 50 feet.  In reality, the operational muzzle velocity of an airsoft sniper rifle is a lot slower than that because they are using considerably heavier BBs than those players with AEGs.  To hit a respectable speed and range with something like a .43g pellet (a weight commonly used by airsoft marksmen), you have to bump up that power limit to 550 with .2s (a weight that is all but useless for sniping).  So, I'm getting hit with a heavier round going slower than everyone else's; definitely don't have a problem with that.  I also totally understand the need to plunk a guy with authority beyond 100 feet so that person knows they're dead; nothing more frustrating than getting that great sniper kill that the "dead guy" didn't know to call.

I will be attending with 2 teammates for Tan so far.  Some members were waiting to see if the FPS limits would come down, though, so we may have more.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: BullDog71ss on May 23, 2012, 03:40:45 PM
Airsoft is a contact sport, you WILL get hurt playing. Adding another few fps to the regs wont make it any worse. Use discretion when shooting at people, especially if your gun is on the hot site, aim for parts of the body with clothing if you can and it will be fine.

Always use ANSI rated protection, and if you do not want to get hurt, don't play.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Warlord on May 23, 2012, 03:43:02 PM
Airsoft is a contact sport, you WILL get hurt playing. Adding another few fps to the regs wont make it any worse. Use discretion when shooting at people, especially if your gun is on the hot site, aim for parts of the body with clothing if you can and it will be fine.

Always use ANSI rated protection, and if you do not want to get hurt, don't play.

Perfect. Very well said.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Strongbrown on May 23, 2012, 11:43:31 PM
Hey TPS guys, how goes it? I heard about this event from another friend today, sounds fun! Shadow, are you and Don Juan attending? It's my anniversary week, so I'll have to double check, but I'd like to attend if possible. I may even get Jared and Geoff out with me. :)

What if I don't want to get hurt, but I DO want to hurt others? Even though this is a free event, I'd still like to complain about random things just because it's a public forum! (just kidding. :)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 24, 2012, 07:55:05 AM
If you are not on the list for attending please make sure you register on the page. This will help keep balance come guns up.


Register here
REGISTRATION FORM (https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/embeddedform?formkey=dEY3S0t2WVBsT19fMjBwa2lJcEFGWXc6MQ)


RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Rockit on May 24, 2012, 09:58:19 AM
Is there anyone not camping the Friday night before who could offer a ride early Saturday morning? I'm right off the I-17 so I'd be on the way for most anyone.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Terreus on May 24, 2012, 01:23:39 PM
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Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: bigwavedave on May 24, 2012, 02:21:33 PM
To all the threadjackers.  If somebody hosts a game and you don't agree with the format.  It's pretty simple....Don't go!  That's why I don't attend zombie games and Vanguard lock ins.  I sure as hell don't feel the need to beef on the people that organize or attend the games, it just aint my cup of tea.

The fact that a group who has hosted multiple free games in Arizona in the last couple of years are trying something different and outside of the normal shouldn't offend anybody.   Has anybody ever even tried to host something like this too see if and how it might change tactics and engagement distances?  People can talk all the sh*t they want but if those who want to attend are aware of the FPS and are over 18 they are making the choice to attend.   If you have never seen what a bb can do to a tooth well then I can verify that a clear spring gun that shoots under 200fps can take out a tooth pretty easily as I've seen happen.

I used to race motocross, and downhill mountainbikes.  I've seen team mates break their necks and femurs.  I've had multiple stitches, sprains, concussions, and tweaked, scraped and scarred 3/4 of my body.  It was part of the game, and I didn't f**cking complain at the guys who hosted the races.

Even at low FPS you still stand the risk of getting bloodied up.  If you can't take the heat...get outta the kitchen.  Some people would be better off with water polo instead of airsoft.
If you don't like the rules for this game go find an AO and host your own games.  Arizona needs more quality free events.

For the record I won't be attending this game due to schedule conflicts, and didn't really get involved in the rules or organization of the event but if you have a problem with it please don't attend so those that are willing to wear appropriate protection and try something different can experiment with it, and enjoy the game without a whole bunch of drama.  If you want to threadjack theres a pony post.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Red Devil on May 24, 2012, 06:02:29 PM
Hopefully that will stop the wuss's from posting. Good job !
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TJC10 on May 24, 2012, 06:11:21 PM
This is not a wuss post. I just have a question. I understand the engagement/fps rules. I just have a question. If I don't want to change out for a 130/140 spring to take a gun from 350 with 25's is there still a 50' engagement range on an AEG?

Again just a question, not an argument. Don't want to ruffle any feathers.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on May 24, 2012, 08:16:11 PM
The 50' MED applies for all AEG's (snipers and sidearms are diff) regardless of FPS. This is NOT only a safety regulation, but also a regulation intended to change the gameplay tactics.

Bring a side arm.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Warlord on May 25, 2012, 08:54:13 PM
The 50' MED applies for all AEG's (snipers and sidearms are diff) regardless of FPS. This is NOT only a safety regulation, but also a regulation intended to change the gameplay tactics.

Bring a side arm.

Good answered my question too.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: gengero on May 26, 2012, 08:05:39 PM
Just registered for myself and my roommate Levi (I registered tan, but Levi will be green).  Looking forward to a good game.
-Parley
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on May 26, 2012, 09:09:10 PM
Just a question can you change color your registered for?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on May 26, 2012, 09:48:50 PM
Just post here your new color and we will update the roster.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on May 27, 2012, 04:33:22 AM
i'll switch to tan, i'm under Mike in registration, so thought i'd mention that since you will have no other way of telling, and by looks of things i'll be with nukeduster in multicam
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: dhartman69 on May 27, 2012, 07:25:16 AM
what time are you starting this on the 16th?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: xTanTricK on May 27, 2012, 09:15:01 AM
what time are you starting this on the 16th?

When : June 16th Chrono & Check in 0800  Safety brief 0900 Boots on ground 0915
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on May 27, 2012, 07:44:13 PM
when people ask questions that are answered in the FIRST post i wonder if people actually READ these posts...im excited for the game, myself and 3 others from DC Ops will be attending! looking forward to playing with the TPA crew again!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on May 28, 2012, 02:54:42 PM
when people ask questions that are answered in the FIRST post i wonder if people actually READ these posts...im excited for the game, myself and 3 others from DC Ops will be attending! looking forward to playing with the TPA crew again!

for some people the wait could kill you,   It is close to killing me in ways.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: DiseaseInjuryMadness on May 29, 2012, 01:18:46 AM
I'm not 18 (3 months left!) and My friend, who is 20, and I would like to go, could my parents sign him off as a guardian of me for the event?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on May 29, 2012, 03:08:52 AM
I'm not 18 (3 months left!) and My friend, who is 20, and I would like to go, could my parents sign him off as a guardian of me for the event?


can my dog come? he is over 18 years old......in dog years anyway. does that count?

oh wait.....i remembered i don't have a dog : (

modified:" RULES  415 w/ 25s at 50ft  minimum engagement distance. " i just saw that and was needing some translation if someone could. i got the 50 ft. part, but what is the rest there?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on May 29, 2012, 07:39:06 AM
Means that if you are within 50ft of your targets you have to use a sidearm.

No AEG fire within 50ft have to switch to sidearm.

This is for a different style of Game Mechanics, so basically you are going to have to learn how to quick draw that side arm SOLDIER!

ROSTER IS UPDATED please check and message me if you are not on there.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on May 29, 2012, 05:36:43 PM
Means that if you are within 50ft of your targets you have to use a sidearm.

No AEG fire within 50ft have to switch to sidearm.

This is for a different style of Game Mechanics, so basically you are going to have to learn how to quick draw that side arm SOLDIER!

ROSTER IS UPDATED please check and message me if you are not on there.


can we take prisoners lol if he has no weapon can i take him hostage.
then im going to need a side arm lol. I think im screwed. I better get one quick All i got is a cheap spring side arm and it will not cut it
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on May 31, 2012, 07:27:04 PM
Means that if you are within 50ft of your targets you have to use a sidearm.

No AEG fire within 50ft have to switch to sidearm.

This is for a different style of Game Mechanics, so basically you are going to have to learn how to quick draw that side arm SOLDIER!

ROSTER IS UPDATED please check and message me if you are not on there.


can we take prisoners lol if he has no weapon can i take him hostage.
then im going to need a side arm lol. I think im screwed. I better get one quick All i got is a cheap spring side arm and it will not cut it


since youre considering rolling with our team and we'll most likely be carpooling to this game i have a glock with a thigh holster you can borrow just dont break it ;)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on June 02, 2012, 02:57:54 PM
Means that if you are within 50ft of your targets you have to use a sidearm.

No AEG fire within 50ft have to switch to sidearm.

This is for a different style of Game Mechanics, so basically you are going to have to learn how to quick draw that side arm SOLDIER!

ROSTER IS UPDATED please check and message me if you are not on there.


can we take prisoners lol if he has no weapon can i take him hostage.
then im going to need a side arm lol. I think im screwed. I better get one quick All i got is a cheap spring side arm and it will not cut it


since youre considering rolling with our team and we'll most likely be carpooling to this game i have a glock with a thigh holster you can borrow just dont break it ;)

thanks man, i have a really cheap sidearm i can use but i think the glock would make a lot better secondary.

oh and btw, what is the policy on this game on airsoft granades and such?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Rogue Fox on June 02, 2012, 03:03:27 PM
Thunder Bs and rockets are fine. Its at the bottom of the rules page.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: BlackDragon21 on June 02, 2012, 04:49:20 PM
dang i've been out for a while and looking at this again i wanna go. suck it's so far.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: svataz on June 02, 2012, 06:49:06 PM
Can't wait love its not to far to drive see ya all there
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Bronze Dragon on June 03, 2012, 10:24:41 PM
I dont care that its that far; all it means is that its not in the suck-basin--which is all the better.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on June 04, 2012, 05:41:15 AM
dang i've been out for a while and looking at this again i wanna go. suck it's so far.

Ya, but it's not 112 degrees either. Should be in the 70's or 80's.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 04, 2012, 08:12:24 AM
UPDATED ROSTER.

Sorry I was out of commission for responses family stuff...
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on June 04, 2012, 04:36:20 PM
Aw FFS - Does anyone know how long that fire restriction will be in place? How can you have a camp out without a camp fire???
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: -MAD- SARGE on June 04, 2012, 09:14:15 PM
Aw FFS - Does anyone know how long that fire restriction will be in place? How can you have a camp out without a camp fire???

I don't remember if the AO is in the Tonto or the Coconino forest but either way here are the restrictions for both respectively.  http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5251559.pdf (http://www.fs.usda.gov/Internet/FSE_DOCUMENTS/stelprdb5251559.pdf)
http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/home/?cid=stelprdb5368157 (http://www.fs.usda.gov/detail/coconino/home/?cid=stelprdb5368157)

In either one, I do not see that camp stoves are restricted, a campfire is not necessary unless you need ambiance. 
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Bronze Dragon on June 05, 2012, 08:51:24 AM
Aw FFS - Does anyone know how long that fire restriction will be in place? How can you have a camp out without a camp fire???

The same way that you can have Christmas without a poncho.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on June 06, 2012, 05:42:45 PM
Regarding the google map in the first post, do we have a phone number where we can reach the game organizer in case of something happening, like the ao / campsites getting closed, or we get lost along the way?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on June 06, 2012, 06:37:35 PM
I was not able to get cell service at the AO.

Here is a very detailed map of instructions. It's very simple. Look for the gravel pit where hwy 260 cuts away and goes north. Go 1 mile farther, when road curves left (north), you turn right.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=211209980119668524461.0004c1d79d3c93960acbb&msa=0&ll=34.450529,-111.41731&spn=0.006706,0.013937

Remember, Gravel Pit, 1 more mile, Road turns north, you turn right.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Warlord on June 06, 2012, 06:44:46 PM
Aw FFS - Does anyone know how long that fire restriction will be in place? How can you have a camp out without a camp fire???

I was up there for a week last week and only 1 night was cold, the rest were 70s and maybe 1 night was in the 80s, maybe.

And quite surprisingly the moon was so bright that i personnally didnt care about having a fire at all(i have had fires on 95% of all my campouts).
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on June 06, 2012, 10:56:46 PM
I was not able to get cell service at the AO.

Here is a very detailed map of instructions. It's very simple. Look for the gravel pit where hwy 260 cuts away and goes north. Go 1 mile farther, when road curves left (north), you turn right.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=211209980119668524461.0004c1d79d3c93960acbb&msa=0&ll=34.450529,-111.41731&spn=0.006706,0.013937

Remember, Gravel Pit, 1 more mile, Road turns north, you turn right.

Thanks for that detailed map.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Fresnel on June 07, 2012, 12:11:24 AM
Aw FFS - Does anyone know how long that fire restriction will be in place? How can you have a camp out without a camp fire???
The paper hanging on my desk here says "until further notice". It does, however, say that propane/petroleum stoves, lanterns, and "heating devices" are exempt.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: asof elites on June 07, 2012, 11:22:23 AM
I was not able to get cell service at the AO.

Here is a very detailed map of instructions. It's very simple. Look for the gravel pit where hwy 260 cuts away and goes north. Go 1 mile farther, when road curves left (north), you turn right.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=211209980119668524461.0004c1d79d3c93960acbb&msa=0&ll=34.450529,-111.41731&spn=0.006706,0.013937

Remember, Gravel Pit, 1 more mile, Road turns north, you turn right.
About the service, I have a cabin in strawberry and from what I know verison gets service.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Drmalan on June 08, 2012, 12:13:36 AM
Google map link on first post doesn't work at least on a Mac

Register 4 for green but could also go tan as needed
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Fresnel on June 08, 2012, 12:29:44 AM
Google map link on first post doesn't work at least on a Mac

Register 4 for green but could also go tan as needed
Works fine on mine, it's just centered funny.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on June 08, 2012, 05:56:15 AM
Google map link on first post doesn't work at least on a Mac

Register 4 for green but could also go tan as needed

Try this one:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=211209980119668524461.0004c1d79d3c93960acbb&msa=0&ll=34.450529,-111.41731&spn=0.006706,0.013937
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: birdman on June 08, 2012, 06:23:05 AM
I was not able to get cell service at the AO.
About the service, I have a cabin in strawberry and from what I know verison gets service.
Yeah, I was up there a few years ago and I get good service with Verizon.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 08, 2012, 08:59:16 AM
I was not able to get cell service at the AO.

Here is a very detailed map of instructions. It's very simple. Look for the gravel pit where hwy 260 cuts away and goes north. Go 1 mile farther, when road curves left (north), you turn right.
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=211209980119668524461.0004c1d79d3c93960acbb&msa=0&ll=34.450529,-111.41731&spn=0.006706,0.013937

Remember, Gravel Pit, 1 more mile, Road turns north, you turn right.


THERE WILL BE ROAD SIGNS BRIGHT GREEN
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Drmalan on June 08, 2012, 09:12:32 AM


Try this one:
https://maps.google.com/maps/ms?msid=211209980119668524461.0004c1d79d3c93960acbb&msa=0&ll=34.450529,-111.41731&spn=0.006706,0.013937


That works
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Shadow on June 08, 2012, 10:54:18 AM
Original post has been updated with storyline.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 08, 2012, 10:57:40 AM
EDIT TO RULES READ ORIGINAL POST


Backstory added.

Rules Updated. SNIPERS WILL BE KEY IN THIS GAME. ( WILL NEED RADIO COMMUNICATION )

Game Details and scenario will be posted by Saturday night on the website.

Please review!!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on June 09, 2012, 01:45:24 AM
EDIT TO RULES READ ORIGINAL POST

Rules Updated. SNIPERS WILL BE KEY IN THIS GAME. ( WILL NEED RADIO COMMUNICATION )

Are you saying that snipers are needed for the scenario, or are you just saying how important of an asset they'll be?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SkeptikZ on June 09, 2012, 08:54:15 AM
I'm sure it's just a statement to say that snipers will play an important role in the game.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Shadow on June 09, 2012, 09:45:48 AM
Typically, snipers are pretty limited with how they can impact the outcome of a game.

Not the case here.  They could be pivotal.

Of course, that doesn't mean everyone needs to go and be a sniper.  Just that those who will be will actually have something to do that is meaningful.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 11, 2012, 09:41:04 AM
ROSTER UPDATED


69 TOTAL REGISTRATIONS!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: B3ANZOR on June 11, 2012, 01:22:49 PM
Can you switch the Lights Out guys to green.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 11, 2012, 01:27:43 PM
Updated

Make sure that you bring Radio communication and a watch to this gentlemen!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: BlackDragon21 on June 11, 2012, 01:33:41 PM
I want to come to this game.. my car is broken down and in the shop for two week. anyone in the area of i17 and camelback or bethany home and i can hitch a ride with?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on June 11, 2012, 03:26:39 PM
add a +1 for DC OPS on tan please, callsign Ryllian
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 11, 2012, 03:42:58 PM
70 TOTAL REGISTRATIONS!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: gengero on June 11, 2012, 05:45:33 PM
A couple quick questions regarding the rules.  How many medic rags (white) should we have on us, just one or as many as we want?

Also I understand that this is a mid cap only game, does that mean anyone with high caps gets the 5 minute death penalty at the start or every time they die...or are they just not allowed to play?  Me and the guy coming with me only have high caps.  I'm willing to buy mid caps, but I'm just curious if we might be able to carry just two high caps only instead.

Parley
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on June 11, 2012, 10:39:59 PM
A couple quick questions regarding the rules.  How many medic rags (white) should we have on us, just one or as many as we want?

Also I understand that this is a mid cap only game, does that mean anyone with high caps gets the 5 minute death penalty at the start or every time they die...or are they just not allowed to play?  Me and the guy coming with me only have high caps.  I'm willing to buy mid caps, but I'm just curious if we might be able to carry just two high caps only instead.

Parley

im not running this game but im pretty sure "high cap magazines will not be allowed" pretty much says it all...doesnt have anything to do with the capacity as much as it does the fact that you dont have to take time to reload, therefore having a tactical advantage...
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on June 12, 2012, 04:53:05 AM
You only need 1 medic rag. (unless you loose it)
Example
You get shot, you sit down, yell medic, somebody comes and ties your arm with your medic rag, then your backup. If nobody comes to revive you after 5 mins, go back to your flag and respawn.

You get shot while you have a medic rag tied to your arm, you sit down for 5 mins, then go back to the flag to respawn. You can only be revived once per spawn.  If you respawn at your flag, take your medic bandage off and put it back in your pocket.

If you are down, you do NOT tell your teammates anything. Dead men tell no tale. Once you are revived, you can say whatever you want.

Have to get back to you on the High Caps.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 12, 2012, 07:50:06 AM
Pm'd in regard to the High Caps.

Yes we do not allow them. This is Mil-Sim gentlemen! 

In regard to when you die.. YOU SIT DOWN/LAY DOWN, you can yell MEDIC! that is all. You can yell Medic for 5 minutes if you are not tied off with a white rag. 

Good idea is to bring a Red Rag. As it is this is Airsoft you should already have one.

It's your fault if you are shot multiple times if you are dead and not displaying a red rag.

RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)
RULES (http://www.teamphantom.net/TeamPhantom/OP_GreenHorn_2.html)


The rules are there for a reason. Don't try and break them or bend them. We am not joking when we say this... You will be TOLD to leave. Don't waste the drive by thinking you can get away with something that is against the rules.

 PM us or ask in IRC if you have questions. No question is stupid only those not asked.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Bronze Dragon on June 12, 2012, 10:24:05 AM
And just wanted to throw a 'thank you' out to you fellows putting this together.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Warlord on June 12, 2012, 10:48:13 AM
So wish i could come!!!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 12, 2012, 11:37:47 AM
And just wanted to throw a 'thank you' out to you fellows putting this together.

You are more than welcome!

We expect it to be a great OP. Also all further games held which like the ones in the past will be free. Unless there are expenses in which we spend on securing a field. (Hint hint)

We enjoy playing this free Hobby/Sport as much as the next guy.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Dayton on June 12, 2012, 05:59:31 PM
THINGS TO REMEMBER TO BRING



Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: gengero on June 12, 2012, 09:06:36 PM
Thanks for the clarifying the white rag rule.  It makes a lot more sense now.  I have mid caps now so I'm good to go.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Drmalan on June 12, 2012, 09:34:57 PM
How about full black BDU?
I am on green and my silly son wants to wear his black bdu's which was allowed on green for Papago. He also has urban digital if that would be ok. He knows he will be no the most blended in but thinks his ninja skills will allow him to blend
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: GH(+)ST on June 12, 2012, 11:13:25 PM
Alright. This should be fun. Anticipation could kill me.   Hopefully i have as much fun as a kid with a stick and dirt lol
   too be clear i loved dirt and sticks when i was younger...
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on June 13, 2012, 06:48:03 AM
just because the guns come from china, japan, korea, doesnt make anyone that uses one a ninja.

 :P ^This..... I mean, NEWS FLASH: ninjas blend in. Means dressing like everyone else, not standing out ::)

Alright. This should be fun. Anticipation could kill me. 

^aaaand this

Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 13, 2012, 07:26:20 AM
Game time soon!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Drmalan on June 13, 2012, 01:19:33 PM
We have decided its best to sit this one out. Thanks to Team Phantom who has done a great job setting up a very well organized event and it should be great fun and we will surely miss not being there.
I really wanted some payback for being smoked by all the multicam polarstar clad ninjas who had my highly upgraded KWA by at least 75ft at Papago. NukeDuster got my Prime LR 300 all polarstared up with Orga and flat hop mod and ready for this Op,
I will be awaiting some future opportunity to seek my vengeance!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Shadow on June 14, 2012, 07:44:34 AM
Today would be a good time to start hydrating, tomorrow at the latest.  (Water, not energy drinks)  At the higher altitudes, I would hate for someone to have to head to the emergency room because of dehydration and/or heat exhaustion.  Kinda puts a damper on your day...
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Rogue Fox on June 14, 2012, 11:08:04 AM
If anyone has room for one more I have a friend that needs a ride up on the day of the game. He lives near university and mclintock. I can bring him back he just needs a ride up. He can help with gas money and such. PM me if you can help.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 15, 2012, 07:08:28 AM
Hydrate Hydrate..

You will be able to reach us in IRC all day today. If you have questions please pm or hop in IRC.

Ping who ever is in there by stating their name in the channel.



We quite possibly will be having Giveaways at the event! Stay Tuned!!!


For anyone heading up today to camp. There will be ORANGE tape on a tree at the Entrance.   Once you enter stay to the RIGHT.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Nofatchicks on June 15, 2012, 10:03:28 AM
Any one located in the North PHX Area that is going? if so pm me please!=]
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SpiritOfSimo on June 15, 2012, 01:08:05 PM
My team is here now, is the orange tape already up, we don't see it. Can you be more specific?
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Shadow on June 15, 2012, 01:12:30 PM
My team is here now, is the orange tape already up, we don't see it. Can you be more specific?

Hang tight.  I'm contacting the early group.  You got up there before anyone else did, so I don't believe the orange tape is up yet.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: thegovernator on June 15, 2012, 06:07:11 PM
There is orange tape marking a tree at the turnoff from the highway. First fork there is orange arrows pointing left. Follow road and we will be camped on the left
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TheCzM on June 15, 2012, 06:40:46 PM
I have been watching the weather. According to weather underground (using the gps coordinates) it will be a hotter than the first post predicted. THis is just a heads up so those of us not camping the night can pack plenty of water. The high is 91 degrees. With winds reaching up to 15mph. Just a heads up
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Shadow on June 15, 2012, 10:16:41 PM
I have been watching the weather. According to weather underground (using the gps coordinates) it will be a hotter than the first post predicted. THis is just a heads up so those of us not camping the night can pack plenty of water. The high is 91 degrees. With winds reaching up to 15mph. Just a heads up

Seems to be the high 80s @ 6000'.  The game will be at or around 7000' so it should be slightly cooler.  It's 56 up there right now.  Regardless, plan on the weather.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TheCzM on June 16, 2012, 03:44:40 PM
Great day in strawberry! Awesome game once again thanks to team phantom. Go tan team!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: svataz on June 16, 2012, 04:35:15 PM
Great game love the ao go green all the way
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: nukeduster on June 16, 2012, 09:25:15 PM
That was a fantastic day. Lots of friendly fire ( I was guilty of it too), hopefully in the future people who insist on playing together can follow the uniform requirements that are clearly posted at the beginning of the thread instead of playing on the wrong team wearing opposing teams uniforms without any indication that they are not on your team.... if you want to play together, bring the same uniform.

Sorry, pet peeve of mine.

Great game, great sportsmanship everyone. Definitely worth the drive up. Tan team was definitely outgunned in the sniper department, but I hope the two of us were able to keep your heads down.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on June 17, 2012, 03:02:10 AM
great game today, i agree with nuke about the uniform rule by the way, and people who dont show up in any uniform (guy in shorts and a tshirt) shouldnt even play because we cant tell who youre even with...in regards to finding the AO, as i already stated to paradox, it was kind of complicated since you said to look for the tree with orange tape (there were 2 along the road) and we went to that one...followed the instructions that said stay to the right (oddly enough the wrong entrance we took with orange tape had other trees with orange tape going right, yours actually went LEFT), next time instead of gps coordinates (which according to my phone were off by about 1/2 mile) maybe just give mile marker indications (for those who dont have gps devices) and if you guys knew about the other orange tape the day before...maybe you shouldve cut it down and my team wouldnt have driven around for 40 minutes looking for people at the wrong location :) all complaining aside i had fun despite a bought of heat exhaustion (instead of a constant 3 hour game, how about maybe 2-2 hour games with a 30 minute hydration/food break in between?) going for a solid 3 hours even with hydration is a lot for some of us out of shape folks haha, but all in all i still intend on coming to more TPA hosted games for sure :)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: McMoose on June 17, 2012, 07:26:00 AM
great game today, i agree with nuke about the uniform rule by the way, and people who dont show up in any uniform (guy in shorts and a tshirt) shouldnt even play because we cant tell who youre even with...in regards to finding the AO, as i already stated to paradox, it was kind of complicated since you said to look for the tree with orange tape (there were 2 along the road) and we went to that one...followed the instructions that said stay to the right (oddly enough the wrong entrance we took with orange tape had other trees with orange tape going right, yours actually went LEFT), next time instead of gps coordinates (which according to my phone were off by about 1/2 mile) maybe just give mile marker indications (for those who dont have gps devices) and if you guys knew about the other orange tape the day before...maybe you shouldve cut it down and my team wouldnt have driven around for 40 minutes looking for people at the wrong location :) all complaining aside i had fun despite a bought of heat exhaustion (instead of a constant 3 hour game, how about maybe 2-2 hour games with a 30 minute hydration/food break in between?) going for a solid 3 hours even with hydration is a lot for some of us out of shape folks haha, but all in all i still intend on coming to more TPA hosted games for sure :)

Haha... yeah we about fell for that first orange tape also. I got a bunch of traffic cones at work, maybe I can loan you some for next game. But was a good game.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: svataz on June 17, 2012, 09:50:43 AM
Loved the battles a sniper game with objectives was great time frame on games great love long games. Ao was interesting to find but all turned out good.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Artac on June 17, 2012, 12:29:03 PM
This was my first Team Phantom hosted game, and you guys set a pretty high bar for your games after this. Excellent field(Free!), great turnout, I have no clue how many actually showed up but it made for a great game, lastly all the participants from my point of view were very honorable; i.e. no issues with people not calling their shots. All in all good game guys I look forward to your next one!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SG-1 on June 17, 2012, 05:40:18 PM
I counted over 50 players with more on tan than on green but only by about 5.  I agree that the dude in the shorts should've come more prepared but I think it was his first game.  I'll cut him some slack for that reason.  I think the creators did a great job organzing it and even though I am not a sniper, I loved that aspect to the game.  It really kept me on my toes (and on my butt a couple of times).  I give props to the green team for holding 4/5 flags for the first half of the game.  You all were well organized and did a great job.  I was getting frustrated by not being able to advance on any side I turned.  But, I have to give tan the higher praise for sniping the asset, disarming the bomb and routing the green team at the end. 
   The bomb was awesome and so were the control points.  I appreciate all the hard work TPA put into this!  Good job guys!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: SVT Cobra on June 17, 2012, 11:05:35 PM
I had a great time! Many new memories where made at this game haha. Thanks team phantom for putting this together, it was a great success!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 18, 2012, 07:28:46 AM
We want to thank everyone who came out and made this happen. The day couldn't have gone better. I know the 3 hours was a bit long however it wasn't far from the staging area should someone need to fix something. Which IMO was a nice feature of that area we choose.

We want to give praise to the snipers of that game. Without you we wouldn't have had a great game. There were some absolutely amazing shots from you guys.

Great team work!

Thanks again!


Look forward to more Greenhorn OP's in the near future.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 18, 2012, 10:20:30 AM
After-Action Report:

Green had a stranglehold on four of the five flag points right from the start of the game and dominated those points for roughly two-thirds of the entire event.  From the onset, Tan had a difficult time consolidating its forces in order to make a much-needed push and balance out the playing field.  At around 10:30 AM, the game-changing call had been made.  A Tan sniper had managed to infiltrate Green's territory and assasinate his target (Score Tan: 25, Green: 0), made his way over to the dead body and confiscated the vital intel for disarming the bomb in the middle of the field.  The Tan sniper then made his way back to the Tan forces and disclosed that he needed to get to the bomb and disarm it since he had the instructions.  After an hour of stalemate fighting, Green's right flank finally collapsed after a Tan surge pushed its way through the trees and brush.  Tan had successfully taken a large point lead after disarming the bomb, Tan 75: Green: 0.

At that point, Tan had control of the majority of flag points and was desperately holding onto its point lead with about 45 minutes of playing time left.  Green managed to target and assasinate a few of Tan's assets, bringing the score close to a tie.  However, Tan managed to remove two Green assets to close out the game.

Final Score: Tan 125, Green 75

Thanks to everyone who came out and participated.  There were well over 50 people in attendance.  Thanks to Tempe Paintball for donating items for a surprise raffle!  Thank you for the constructive feedback.  We look forward to planning our next OP and will be taking everything into consideration.

All-in-all, the game was a large success.  This was a new scenario type that had never been tried before, with snipers playing an extremely vital role in the outcome of the game.  As far as we knew, outside of one or two situations, the increased FPS limit did not have a negative impact.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: foxide on June 18, 2012, 10:57:57 AM
not sure who the girl is who was taking the pictures but when/where might we be able to see them? would like to put them on our teams site :)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 18, 2012, 11:04:14 AM
That was SVATaz's wife
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Shadow on June 18, 2012, 11:12:27 AM
not sure who the girl is who was taking the pictures but when/where might we be able to see them? would like to put them on our teams site :)

svataz's wife.  They'll probably be up on FB... which means I'll have to hijack my wife's FB account to see them since I don't use FB...
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: Nofatchicks on June 18, 2012, 12:09:50 PM
Here you go gentlemen i found this link: http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.330153110393369.73385.100001960493171&type=1 (http://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.330153110393369.73385.100001960493171&type=1)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: tech on June 18, 2012, 12:12:34 PM
Would love to go next time!

Hopefully will be soon!
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: svataz on June 18, 2012, 12:31:11 PM
Pics up on my teams Facebook plus other ops had great time when i get married lol
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: TeamPhantom on June 18, 2012, 01:11:14 PM
Pics up on my teams Facebook plus other ops had great time when i get married lol

That's what I refer to everyone's g/f lol.
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: -MAD- SARGE on July 05, 2012, 09:11:00 PM
Thanks for the game Team Phantom.  Good quality players out there all around, always makes for a fun time!

StrawberryShortRemix (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wsMNXECYBzs#ws)
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: bigwavedave on July 06, 2012, 08:16:05 AM
Sarge
 thanks for the great clip. Couldn't make this one due to all the damn forest fires but felt like I was in the mix with this clip. 
Title: Re: Team Phantom Hosts OP GREENHORN II June 16th
Post by: thegovernator on July 06, 2012, 08:22:43 PM
Awesome video Sarge! Thanks for taking the time to edit all that and post it.