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« on: May 07, 2007, 11:28:07 AM »
alrighty. after pretty regular use since November, my CA took a nose dive

2 of 3 gears are shot. prpbably because of the 9.6 gonzo. i'll just buy another set, thats no problem. but which set? OR should i stay stock and lop off a cell?

the trigger wont fire on semi, it sort of clicks during the squeeze, as if it were going past something. i dont know what thats all about, maybe the tappet?

also. the dreaded first 3 teeth on the piston are very worn, im surprised it still fired. metal teeth, a good idea? or would that stress the gear too much?
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« Reply #1 on: May 07, 2007, 11:39:48 AM »
A 9.6v pack is fine for that gun.

Replace the worn parts with similar items, preferably CA.

More than likely, the problem arises from your firing habits.  

I'm guessing you are a habitual user of full auto?

If so, make sure to time the bursts so your gearbox resets consistently.  Also try to refrain from several short bursts in rapid succession.  

If using semi auto, let the gearbox come to a complete stop before pulling the trigger again.  A higher voltage pack (your 9.6 is just right) will require less time in between shots because the motor is turning faster.

An AEG functions much slower than it's firearm equivalent.
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« Reply #2 on: May 07, 2007, 12:10:48 PM »
i'm a controlled burst user. and i've sort of learned how to time the squeezes so the piston ends up in the right place.

but i've been using this weapon a lot. i'd love to be able to use semi auto, (when i do, i always allow a full cycle)  and i will be more able to in phoenix once i move, but 90% of the players here in tucson use hi caps or c mags and just unload. so its hard to counter without using full auto. so.. yeah, i'm guilty of using FA a lot.


so all CA replacements then? sounds good to me.
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« Reply #3 on: May 07, 2007, 03:29:36 PM »
I actually put some systema super torque up gears, and they work great with the gonzo, slowed the cycle rate back to a normal rate.
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« Reply #4 on: May 07, 2007, 05:49:24 PM »
i was thinking about them. the cycle seems to be a little too fast as is. i have some research to do before i set everything up. I'm using this opportunity to make some modifications. i.e. longer inner/outter barrel.
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« Reply #5 on: May 07, 2007, 08:17:49 PM »
Arizona Sergeant, it's important to note that the Gonzo CQB pack is pushing on 40 amps.

That high of a discharge rate combined with the voltage is what causes the problems.

I recommend torque up gears and an 8.4v pack.
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« Reply #6 on: May 07, 2007, 08:57:11 PM »
thank you Vince, you suggest the Systema's i assume? what about the piston, i think im going to take this opportunity to replace it. regular CA the best choice?
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« Reply #7 on: May 07, 2007, 09:10:26 PM »
Systema or Classic Army is fine.

I like Deepfire pistons.
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« Reply #8 on: May 07, 2007, 09:25:11 PM »
rgr that. i assume Paul can lop off a cell from my battery. i'll bring it to him.
thanx for your help
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« Reply #9 on: May 07, 2007, 11:49:24 PM »
I have a 8.4v gonzo crane stock abttery and the ROF is fine, I would reconmend prometheus gears, and ethier a G&P polyaceatal piston or a deepfire. As long as you file down teh 2nd to last tooth all the way and the 3rd half way you can use the 9.6v without problems.
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« Reply #10 on: May 08, 2007, 01:07:41 PM »
Quote from: "pilz"
As long as you file down teh 2nd to last tooth all the way and the 3rd half way you can use the 9.6v without problems.


filing down teeth, wtf?
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« Reply #11 on: May 08, 2007, 04:41:14 PM »
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As long as you file down teh 2nd to last tooth all the way and the 3rd half way you can use the 9.6v without problems.

filing down teeth, wtf?

Yes.  The reason that your piston teeth are worn is because the gears were catching it mid-cycle.  If you file down those teeth, the sector gear will not catch them.  And get Prometheus standard ratio gears.  They won't break or strip.  Ever.  And a Guarder or G&P piston.  You might also want to replace your switch assembly with a Systema Lo-Res switch or just get a mosfet since the stock CA trigger contacts suck.
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« Reply #12 on: May 08, 2007, 04:52:37 PM »
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As long as you file down teh 2nd to last tooth all the way and the 3rd half way you can use the 9.6v without problems.

filing down teeth, wtf?
Yes.  The reason that your piston teeth are worn is because the gears were catching it mid-cycle.  If you file down those teeth, the sector gear will not catch them.  And get Prometheus standard ratio gears.  They won't break or strip.  Ever.  And a Guarder or G&P piston.  You might also want to replace your switch assembly with a Systema Lo-Res switch or just get a mosfet since the stock CA trigger contacts suck.
In other words...buy another gun. :roll:

Tonk's gun is stock and works fine Ares.  It even sounds scary....
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« Reply #13 on: May 08, 2007, 05:35:12 PM »
yeah, so did mine till the sniper op. im not springing it or anything, i just dont want it to break again..... so stronger gears to replace the broken ones, a new piston (CA most likely) and an 8.4 battery will ensure that
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« Reply #14 on: May 09, 2007, 02:41:55 AM »
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As long as you file down teh 2nd to last tooth all the way and the 3rd half way you can use the 9.6v without problems.

filing down teeth, wtf?
Yes.  The reason that your piston teeth are worn is because the gears were catching it mid-cycle.  If you file down those teeth, the sector gear will not catch them.

So what's the problem with letting them self-clearance and file themselves? the piston teeth are prolly poly-carb or aluminium, definitely softer than the sector gear. I ask because I don't know, it just seems to me that it's a system i'd leave alone and clean out the metal filings when i do my gearbox R&R
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