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Hammer Mods TM M14 review
« on: August 14, 2005, 07:16:09 PM »
Dunno if anyone here has seen it yet, http://www.hammermods.com/ImpactM14.htm but there's the review.  Seems like Marui made a great gun.
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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2005, 07:42:10 PM »
Looks good.  Interesting mechbox.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2005, 08:02:54 PM »
So what was all this bs about some kind of special feature?
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2005, 08:32:55 PM »
I have no idea!  I've been trying to find that out, but I've yet to find an answer.  I thought spring release, but the damn thing doesn't even have one lol.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2005, 08:36:42 PM »
Quote from: "leadmagnet"
So what was all this bs about some kind of special feature?


I agree with lead!!! When they first were talking about bringing this gun out over a year ago. They said that it was going to have Quote a "secret Feature". I still have to say that this gun looks bad A$$. But, what is so special about it other than the 7V gearbox. When I thought as well as others did regaurding a special feature. I thought it was going to have a manual cocking spring like the new KSC HK33K. In where you can cock it like a springer when the battery dies. I was also hoping that it would be Designed similarly to the Marui PSG1. Where the spring is pre-tensioned before each shot for instant response, just like the KSC HK33K.

I still like it, and would still want one. I wonder how easy it is to upgrade, and how durable it will be, through long period's of time.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2005, 09:29:09 PM »
I'm tossed between this and the M1 Garand.  But yeah... I thought it was either going to have the manual cocking feature, or where you have to pull the bolt back to load the first round.  That was what the first rumor was.
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« Reply #6 on: August 15, 2005, 12:38:02 AM »
the fake wood finish looks surprisingly good. much better than the ak. and the new v7 gearbox is very interesting. looks simple. anyone know whether its easy to work on or not?
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« Reply #7 on: August 15, 2005, 09:39:48 AM »
Quote from: "seph6885"
the fake wood finish looks surprisingly good. much better than the ak. and the new v7 gearbox is very interesting. looks simple. anyone know whether its easy to work on or not?


Looks like it would be easy to work. The Problem is that there is no upgrades for it yet. According to them, all you can do is put bushings, and maybe the PDI 150  spring. Any higher and you will wear those gears down. You have to wait for better gears to come out, before you do high power upgrades that will be durable.

A tight bore would be nice to put in also if you want a better grouping. Im curious the cylinder is slightly longer than a standard size cylinder. But not as long as the PSG-1. I wonder if you could put a PSG-1 length barrel on it, without trouble. You could run it all the way to the end of the suppressor custom cut if needed. Or you could maybe scroow on a noise reducer. The whole thing is could you put a longer barrel on it without Vaccum syndrome? Not that a longer barrel is needed. But, I am sure someone may want to designate it as a sniper, or make it as accurate as possible.
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« Reply #8 on: August 16, 2005, 03:55:29 PM »
Eh, if the gun works fine then I'll go out and buy it. Secret features aside, this gun looks like it could make a good sniper rifle.
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« Reply #9 on: August 16, 2005, 04:47:58 PM »
Well, I can gladly say that I received my brand new M14 today and I love it! I haven't had a  chance to fire it yet (waiting for the battery to charge), but I can certainly attest to its rigidity. Really nothing on it moves or creaks at all, and it is quite hefty (in a good way). As for the "special feature", I think they were refering to the moving bolt assembly, (it has the nicest cocking sound of any AEG I've ever heard) or possibly just the new ver. 7 gearbox. As for the faux wood finish, it looks kinda  dull, too laminated looking. Slightly disappointing, but I'm sure I can find something to rub on there and make it look better. Overall though, it looks and feels to be a fantastic AEG, and I can't seem to put it down. :oops:
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« Reply #10 on: August 16, 2005, 04:58:15 PM »
Thats not the secret feature we're talking about.  Well, it could be, but I highly doubt Marui would put that much hype on a moving bolt.
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M14 (Marui or G&G)
« Reply #11 on: August 16, 2005, 06:17:44 PM »
Gentlemen, I've heard alot of hoopla over both the Marui and the G&G version of these rifles. I too am intrigued by the general information (or mis-information) about these two. However, since I was looking for sheer durability and upgrade potential I opted for the G&G version. I own two actually. A version 1 (complete with the problematic trigger spring and switch contacts, bad hop bucking and loose barrel assembly) and version 2 (which corrected all the problems in version 1). Since I fixed the version 1 problems after getting the version 2 gun, I now have two fully functional M14's. The reason why I chose G&G over Marui was the metal body and takedown dynamics. You see, the Marui version (although very stylish and sexy with that cool looking fake wood stock) just didn't have the metal where I thought the metal needed to be (like the receiver, bolt, full length barrel, flash hider, gas cylinder, etc. etc.). The G&G gun has it's barrel attached to the receiver (the way most guns are built) and receives it's strength from the fact that metal is mated to metal (and the stock is merely the interface between user and machine). As far as takedown is concerned, it is really quite simple... with the rifle firmly on the floor with the trigger guard facing up, simply pull up on the trigger guard to release the trigger group from the lower receiver. After the trigger group has been removed, turn the rifle over (holding firmly onto the receiver and stock) and slowly separate the upper receiver assembly from the stock. Push the receiver/barrel assembly forward slightly to disengage the stock from the receiver, then lift the entire assembly (motor, receiver, gearbox and barrel - with plastic upper) off the stock. Also, G&G added a very simple and effective method to relieve the spring tension on the piston. Similar to the method used by ICS on their M4, you take hold of the firing selector on the right side of the receiver and rotate it rearward. That's all there is to it. It's alot more simple than the Marui takedown procedure I read in the review, and they never really address the spring tension release. Now I'm not poking at the Marui iteration of this venerable piece of American history, it's just that it appears as though G&G thought a bit about the marketplace they were planning on soliciting and geared their line towards satisfying this little segment of the airsoft spectrum. I have already upgraded my v2 gun with a new spring (a PDI 170), and a new Prometheus 6.03 barrel. The accuracy of this weapon is stunning. Needless to say, it will serve well either in the support role, or as an interdiction platform. As always, the opinions expressed by me, do not necessarily hold true for the management.

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« Reply #12 on: August 16, 2005, 08:18:33 PM »
How can you insure that you're going to get a version 2 rather than a version 1, Rev?

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« Reply #13 on: August 16, 2005, 09:20:37 PM »
I also am curious how can you be to sure which one you have?
On a side note The Regiment took three upgraded G&G M14's up to LC4 and each one took a dump. Not sure on what versions they were if there is such a thing. But if there is, it was most likely a V1. Two out of the three were upgraded by AEX. Poor quality control if you ask me. They should not have rushed the guns on to the market as fast as they did. Mauri always has good quality control. They sure took there sweet time putting this out, and that should stand as a good testimony for this gun. I can understand the takedown dynamics between the two in where the G&G might be the better gun. But with the Marui the whole top, bolt, and barrel assembly is metal. How does that differ with the G&G? The only Problem I see with the marui, is that issue with the lack of upgrade parts. So yes I will agree with you that Marui does not always gear toward the needs of the airsoft spectrum.
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« Reply #14 on: August 17, 2005, 10:02:32 AM »
If you go to the G&G website, they state that all guns shipped after June 2005 are the version 2 guns (I'm not entirely sure if they are calling it version 2 or just a fixed version 1). In any event, Airsoft Extreme indicates that they have the latest iteration. Guns sold prior to June were problematic. They had issues with funky hop adjustment, hop rubber being too soft (and wearing out early), and the trigger interface not making contact with the switch. I agree with you on Marui QC. I have never had a bad Marui gun. I chose the G&G because I believed that the construction was more robust and durable than the Marui model. Personally I like Marui alot. But I have seen tremendous improvements in quality from companies like Classic Army, G&P and G&G in the AEG arena. The longevity and actual durability of the G&G iteration remains to be seen by me as I have yet to actually test this gun in the field. I have only test fired each gun, repaired the known flaws in one of them, upgraded the other, and ran a couple mags through each of them to make sure the things worked right. The end of this month is an AA game. We'll see how well they do in the field at that time. If they're pieces of crap, I'll unload them faster than you can say "I got screwed". In the mean time, let's hear more about the Marui guns. I'm curious how our AA buyers have fared with that one.

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