The Trouble with Vanguard

[alteclansig]

doesnt matter my stuff is on my person so unless the thief is stealing stuff off my body my gear is staying with me. this is thread is getting intense also just saw another thread with someone asking for advice for a good walk in airsoft store the first recommendation was for vanguard because of the helpful and reliable staff i instantly countered that reply

[CryWulf]

doesnt matter my stuff is on my person so unless the thief is stealing stuff off my body my gear is staying with me. this is thread is getting intense also just saw another thread with someone asking for advice for a good walk in airsoft store the first recommendation was for vanguard because of the helpful and reliable staff i instantly countered that reply

Yes, I applaud your 'Counter'. Telling them that you could recommend a gun better than a place they haven't been to. Why turn them away from one of the only stores left in Arizona to buy guns? Especially without recommending a different store. That wasn't constructive criticism, nor was it helpful, it was you expressing your disdain for a store, using top-notch grammar if I do say so myself.

[bailey5671]

doesnt matter my stuff is on my person so unless the thief is stealing stuff off my body my gear is staying with me. this is thread is getting intense also just saw another thread with someone asking for advice for a good walk in airsoft store the first recommendation was for vanguard because of the helpful and reliable staff i instantly countered that reply

 He was asking for an in-store place to really get a feel for the weapon. Where else do you reccomend? im quite curious.

[alteclansig]

i still said to go vanguard to get a "feel" if you were to read my reply. My criticism on vanguard was that the staff isn't very helpful but that's because the no one really works at the store front everyone is either working the food stand, in the back, at the tech office, or supervising the field. there was one placing that i was going to recommend but i cant remember what the store was called so im searching the forums ATM to find it and post it as a reply

[CryWulf]

i still said to go vanguard to get a "feel" if you were to read my reply. My criticism on vanguard was that the staff isn't very helpful but that's because the no one really works at the store front everyone is either working the food stand, in the back, at the tech office, or supervising the field. there was one placing that i was going to recommend but i cant remember what the store was called so im searching the forums ATM to find it and post it as a reply

Actually, people do work at the storefront and I have a very hard time believing that unless you came in at 9pm or you only stayed for 2 minutes you never encountered anyone whilst browsing the storefront. Either that or this happened a long time ago, which I feel like most of the people posting had their story happen a while ago.

[Shdsteel]

i still said to go vanguard to get a "feel" if you were to read my reply. My criticism on vanguard was that the staff isn't very helpful but that's because the no one really works at the store front everyone is either working the food stand, in the back, at the tech office, or supervising the field. there was one placing that i was going to recommend but i cant remember what the store was called so im searching the forums ATM to find it and post it as a reply

Actually, people do work at the storefront and I have a very hard time believing that unless you came in at 9pm or you only stayed for 2 minutes you never encountered anyone whilst browsing the storefront. Either that or this happened a long time ago, which I feel like most of the people posting had their story happen a while ago.

Just met with Vanguard Friday and was lied to, saying that they had no preorder money. I may be going down there tomorrow(sunday) to give them one last chance. If they dont cooperate then itll be breaking the law.

[alteclansig]

Actually, people do work at the storefront and I have a very hard time believing that unless you came in at 9pm or you only stayed for 2 minutes you never encountered anyone whilst browsing the storefront. Either that or this happened a long time ago, which I feel like most of the people posting had their story happen a while ago.

ive been there a few times recently the KWA event was the last time i went and i didn't bother checking out the store cause it was so busy but usually its fairly calm, in fact so calm i remember once a couple of the ref's were messing with an SVD from the store and popping a mask with it in the field but i digress. i usually have to go find a employee from the food stand or the back to come to the store front to get helped with anything. there was only once when i didnt have to do this but that was because one kid was already talking to one of the employee's at the counter.

[Green Listerine]

I've had experiences like that. Happened pretty frequently. I would walk into the store and wait for about 10-15 minutes before a worker asked me if I needed anything. Every now and then I would ask the worker if they had a part for a gun, and it was always "um.. I don't know," or "let me go ask." I do not like having to tell the workers where the parts are on the wall. Hire people who know Airsoft.  I've also had times when I simply wasn't helped at all, so I just walked out after I was done browsing the shelves. I have felt the urge to apply for a job there, but then I think... "I sometimes have a feeling I should do crystal meth, but then I think... Mmm, better not."

[CryWulf]

Just met with Vanguard Friday and was lied to, saying that they had no preorder money. I may be going down there tomorrow(sunday) to give them one last chance. If they dont cooperate then itll be breaking the law.

Unless nobody actually pre-ordered.

[alteclansig]

I've had experiences like that. Happened pretty frequently. I would walk into the store and wait for about 10-15 minutes before a worker asked me if I needed anything. Every now and then I would ask the worker if they had a part for a gun, and it was always "um.. I don't know," or "let me go ask." I do not like having to tell the workers where the parts are on the wall. Hire people who know Airsoft.  I've also had times when I simply wasn't helped at all, so I just walked out after I was done browsing the shelves. I have felt the urge to apply for a job there, but then I think... "I sometimes have a feeling I should do crystal meth, but then I think... Mmm, better not."

its good to see ya green!! sucks your leaving the community i hope you'll be back though and thanks for the mp9 its working great now...also thanks for sharing my thoughts on this whole vanguard situation.

[Shdsteel]

Just met with Vanguard Friday and was lied to, saying that they had no preorder money. I may be going down there tomorrow(sunday) to give them one last chance. If they dont cooperate then itll be breaking the law.

Unless nobody actually pre-ordered.

Thats the thing, they did, well at least tried to, and were turned towards there lock-in instead. But after some calls and long arguments later, they agreed to pay the money. But still no cash....


While at the Zombie hunter game, a few people explained that they did pay at vanguard though were never signed up.

[CryWulf]

Thats the thing, they did, well at least tried to, and were turned towards there lock-in instead. But after some calls and long arguments later, they agreed to pay the money. But still no cash....


While at the Zombie hunter game, a few people explained that they did pay at vanguard though were never signed up.

Well then make sure you talk DIRECTLY to Brian, because the employees might not know about it. So just make sure you talk to Brian.

[Shdsteel]

Thats the thing, they did, well at least tried to, and were turned towards there lock-in instead. But after some calls and long arguments later, they agreed to pay the money. But still no cash....


While at the Zombie hunter game, a few people explained that they did pay at vanguard though were never signed up.

Well then make sure you talk DIRECTLY to Brian, because the employees might not know about it. So just make sure you talk to Brian.

Thats the thing, I DID.

[Green Listerine]

I've had experiences like that. Happened pretty frequently. I would walk into the store and wait for about 10-15 minutes before a worker asked me if I needed anything. Every now and then I would ask the worker if they had a part for a gun, and it was always "um.. I don't know," or "let me go ask." I do not like having to tell the workers where the parts are on the wall. Hire people who know Airsoft.  I've also had times when I simply wasn't helped at all, so I just walked out after I was done browsing the shelves. I have felt the urge to apply for a job there, but then I think... "I sometimes have a feeling I should do crystal meth, but then I think... Mmm, better not."

its good to see ya green!! sucks your leaving the community i hope you'll be back though and thanks for the mp9 its working great now...also thanks for sharing my thoughts on this whole vanguard situation.

Thanks, and I'm glad you're happy with it! Yeah I'm always happy to throw in my two cents

[Fresnel]

I've also caught the refs once or twice snooping around my table with an eye on my mp7.

To be fair, if I were a ref, I'd keep my eye on every MP7 too. With the stock bolt shooting over 400fps and swappable by popping two pins, there is no better gun to sneak around the chrono with if you wanted to make kids bleed.