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madbull barrel vs other barrels
« on: July 14, 2009, 11:49:03 AM »
want to know everyone's experience with different brand barrels. the only barrel i've upgraded to is madbull, is promy worth all the hype? how about systema barrels? don't want to spend the extra money to experiment if it's not really worth it

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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #1 on: July 14, 2009, 01:02:51 PM »
I have a madbull tightbore I bought from Gearbox in Tempe in my Hurricane HK416 and it is very accurate, especially for a 10.5 inch barrel. I am very pleased with it.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #2 on: July 14, 2009, 01:30:50 PM »
I've had all of the different barrels.

I think the Madbull barrels are probably just as good. I wouldn't say better, but comparable.

What I have noticed, however, is that the Prometheus barrels are far heavier and more sturdy. The Madbull barrels are very light and feel fairly flimsy (they are made out of aluminum).

I dunno how much that matters in this application though.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #3 on: July 14, 2009, 03:00:18 PM »
Iv'e had the Prometheus, KM, Madbull, and Systema tightbore's and I didn't notice any difference between them. My Prometheus was about $20 more than the madbull. That was a waste of $20 in my mind.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #4 on: July 15, 2009, 09:13:30 AM »
thanks guys that's what i wanted to hear, just that it's always tempting to try a new brand.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2009, 09:22:19 PM »
I have an Edgi 6.01mm barrel and it's very nice.  With a CA G36 hop up unit, Systema bucking, stock nub, Edgi 6.01m barrel, Guarder SP110, (and other upgrades) and G&G .25s, I can engage a target smaller than a torso sized target fairly well from 170 feet.  From 150 feet, 6 inch wide trees don't stand a chance.  

From what I've been reading lately, once the tolerances of barrels get to a certain point, it doesn't matter anymore because bbs will never meet those tolerances of the barrels.  So basically, any top barrel brand will perform roughly  (I mean a lot of bbs have like +/-0.1mm, while a good tightbores have like +/-0.0015mm.  I don't think that will matter considering how much the bbs vary. lol  Bore size doesn't matter, the quality of the crown, hop up cut, inner smoothness, and roundness matter the most.

Go for a barrel with a larger bore. (6.03mm would be my choice) The tighter the bore, the more is will "react" to imperfections/deviations with bbs. Namloot and Golgo 13 have found TM barrels to perform the best.  Namloot claims that his Prometheus/Madbull tightbores give no boost in accuracy over his TM barrels, only fps.  I wouldn't be surprised.  

The "tighter the bore the more accurate seems to be a myth" and I haven't found anything that proves such a thing.  

Long story short, Madbull would probably be fine.  (I've heard good and bad things about Systema)  Prometheus would probably only be worth it if you don't have a very stable outer barrel or something because it would resist bending more.  (like a barrel extension)
Just so you know, Madbull barrels have actually been found to have a 6.01mm ID, instead of the advertised 6.03mm.  (according to the German dude who did all those barrel tests with that snazzy machine lol)

Hope this helps and sorry if this is a bit late.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2009, 07:44:40 AM »
This post is very helpful. im going with Madbull 6.03 now to put into my sAw  [smilie=armata_pdt_01.gif]
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2009, 09:25:34 AM »
here you may want to look at this.. it odesnt really compare to other higher end barrels but will give u an idea..

http://www.airsoftretreat.com/reviews/s ... 256&cat=10
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #8 on: July 24, 2009, 03:28:03 PM »
The black python 6.03mm madbull barrel is what I had on my g3sg1 auto sniper for a while. The rifle was accurate for a while, but after several thousand 450FPS bbs thru it, accuracy seems to have gotten worse. This same occurrence hasn't happened with my prometheus 6.03.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #9 on: July 24, 2009, 08:57:58 PM »
MadBull barrels are good for the price. IMO a Prometheus TB barrel is too expensive for .02 less. And to the person who is putting a tightbore in an M249, doesn't that defeat the purpose of a spread BB effect for covering fire?????  :-k
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #10 on: July 26, 2009, 10:53:00 AM »
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And to the person who is putting a tightbore in an M249, doesn't that defeat the purpose of a spread BB effect for covering fire?????  :-k

"Spread BB effect" AKA can't hit what you're aiming at. :roll:  The point of a SAW is not to randomly spray bb's all over the place but to give accurate cover fire for your team. Just because it's a MG doesn't mean it shouldn't be accurate.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #11 on: July 26, 2009, 04:13:34 PM »
Yammie

With barrels you pretty much get what you pay for.  

I would consider PDI barrel to be the best.  It's made out of stainless steel, so it is very resistant to corrosion.  Stainless steel also makes it very strong and will not warp from extreme weather change or bend easily.  Also, it is made in Japan.  So you can expect it to be of the highest quality.  This also means it's the highest priced barrels on the market.

Prometheus I would say is a close runner up.  It is also made of stainless steel.  The Prometheus line was originally made for First Factory in Japan.  However, I'm not exactly sure where it is made.  I believe they're made in China or Taiwan.  Anyway, Prometheus barrels are cheaper than PDI so its the best bang for the buck.

Madbull is also a good quality barrel but it is made of aluminum.

Performance wise they are going to be fairly close but the stainless steel barrel will last longer and will be more resitant to damage than aluminum.

When ever I have  a question.  One thing I do is call about 5 airsoft shops around the US.  If 4 out of 5 says PDI is the best that's a good indicator.  If it seems 50-50, I'll call a few more shop.  I also check for reviews on the Internet to.  Some stores may be bias to a particular product because they may only have that brand in the store or for other reasons.  independent reviews tend to be more honest.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #12 on: July 26, 2009, 04:53:05 PM »
I honestly can't tell the difference between any tighter-than-stock bore barrel I've ever used.  All have given a noticeable increase in accuracy, particularly in full auto.  Some have cost more than others.
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #13 on: July 26, 2009, 06:18:19 PM »
Not trying to dog on you Fox, but if 4 out of 5 shops tell me PDI, chances are it's got a nice profit margin. Check the price tags!  :lol:
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Re: madbull barrel vs other barrels
« Reply #14 on: July 26, 2009, 06:33:44 PM »
No worries P Zen

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If 4 out of 5 says PDI is the best that's a good indicator.
I was using this as an example.

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but if 4 out of 5 shops tell me PDI, chances are it's got a nice profit margin.
That's what I was implying when I said this.
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Some stores may be bias to a particular product because they may only have that brand in the store or for other reasons.

However, I know several owners of airsoft shop in the U.S. and Japan that I have had relationships with for at least 5 years.  Plus, I'm usually able to find out what the wholesale prices are.  I have a wholesale business myself.

In the case of PDI or any other product made in Japan is just going to be more expensive, period.
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