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Offline PHX COBRA

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« on: September 14, 2003, 02:54:43 PM »
I let it sit over night and it is no better.  I tryed a friends mag and it works just fine so I have narrowed it down to the mag.  Is their a way I can like remove all the silicon from the mag or some how take it apart to clean it?
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2003, 08:26:52 PM »
dont use so much!  Only use it on rubber or plastic pieces.  If you use too much, it collect dust, and causes fouls such as the one described.  Keep it clean, and use R/C shock oil (pure silicon) instead of the spray.  it has a higher viscosity, and will stay where you spray it.  You can get it at hobby stores (hobby depot, hobby bench, etc...call around, most stores have it).  Only spray it where the wil be friction.  Spraying it everywhere is NOT a good idea, it can be overdone!
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« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2003, 01:47:21 AM »
Remember, nothing more than 20 weight!  I use a custom mixture of 10 and 50 (probably ends up being about 15-18 in the end) on all parts involved in blowback contact.  I would recommend a good scrubbing with something low lint for anything involving the bb's (ie the mag).  Alcohol (the rubbing kind ;-) gets rid of silicon nicely, but be sure to dry it completely, unless it is pure alcohol it will rust. If you have a dremel, it may be worth finding a small, soft, buffing-type head to smooth out any inconsistencies.  Try compressed air as well.
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« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2003, 08:16:37 AM »
I use 10 wt on some parts, and 35 wt on other parts (such as O-ring seals).
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« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2003, 08:22:09 AM »
Clean the mag with some degreeser like Break Free to remove the excess Silicone.  Wipe the mag dry and then sparingly, (read just a little) spray the mag spring with Silicone.  If you continue to dump BB's out the side, then you probably have a bent feed lip on your mag.
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« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2003, 09:34:03 AM »
I've had the same problem before. I think it has to do with the feeder not being able to hold the BB's properly because it is overly lubricated. Or else you got a little too much lube on the gas-gun adapter (little square rubber piece at the top) and the gas isn't spraying properly. I took the whole mag apart and used a few q-tips to clean the entire thing, including removing the big spring thingy and cleaning that. Afterwards, i put some lube on another q-tip and lubed it like that, and it worked alot better.
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« Reply #6 on: September 16, 2003, 12:07:29 AM »
Ok i took it apart and got all the silicon off with rubbing alcohol and put it back together.

Well i got it all back together except for the bottom 2 pins on the mag wont go all the way back through. And i have to press down really hard to get them in.

So i thought maby it was on tight enough with them just going most of the way.(they pass all the way through but cant fit through the other side)
I put in some gas and it all started leaking out so i shot some bbs really quick and they shoot fine but now i got another problem.
So i went on ebay and got myself a new mag for 29 bucks w/ shippings so it is solved.
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« Reply #7 on: September 16, 2003, 01:14:27 AM »
that mag can be fixed.  You gotta be a little more precise with the reassembly of gas mags!

take out the pins, lube the o-rings with sil, press the bottom back in firmly, making sure it fits right, and get a good view of the holes all the way through?  If they line up right, put in the pins.  It takes time, and you can be hamfisted, but it is definitely possible.  I have taken my M9 mags apart about 5-6 times now, and they are fine!  Almost all gas mags are similar with regards to the parts you described.  

I hope you learned two good lessons here.

Good luck!
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« Reply #8 on: September 16, 2003, 07:05:00 AM »
Thanks for all your help, i got it back together and it is working now.

The good think is that i now have 2 mags.
YAYYYY
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« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2003, 12:50:42 PM »
good to hear!  You can never have too many mags!  (eh, Mikey?)  [:)]
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« Reply #10 on: September 17, 2003, 12:41:50 AM »
You can never have too many mags...
You can never have too much gear...
You can never have more mags or gear than me...
[;)]
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« Reply #11 on: September 17, 2003, 09:51:35 AM »
LOL Mikey
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« Reply #12 on: September 17, 2003, 02:23:08 PM »
<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote">It takes time, and you can be hamfisted, but it is definitely possible.
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IS hamfisted really a word?>
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« Reply #13 on: September 17, 2003, 07:22:10 PM »
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It takes time, and you can be hamfisted, but it is definitely possible.

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hamfisted

ham-fisted adj : not skillful in physical movement especially with the hands; "a bumbling mechanic"; "a bungling performance"; "ham-handed governmental interference"; "could scarcely empty a scuttle of ashes, so handless was the poor creature"- Mary H. Vorse [syn: bumbling, bungling, butterfingered, ham-handed, handless, heavy-handed, left-handed]

Happy?
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« Reply #14 on: January 03, 2004, 10:20:20 PM »
where in the world did you get a mac11 magazine for 28 bucks?
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