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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #15 on: October 06, 2009, 08:38:27 PM »
Sir may I say that I dropped my jaw when I saw this review and after reading it, it fell off. I applaud and respect you for your weapon and this reivew, bravo!  :D
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #16 on: October 06, 2009, 09:41:09 PM »
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Matt, how are those spirol pins working on your bipod?

Good.  I need one more from you, though.

Do you remember what size they were?  IIRC, they were -258's.

If you can measure the hole, I can figure it out.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #17 on: October 06, 2009, 10:04:21 PM »
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Matt, how are those spirol pins working on your bipod?

Good.  I need one more from you, though.

Do you remember what size they were?  IIRC, they were -258's.

If you can measure the hole, I can figure it out.

They were the ones, you know, from that one bin.

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I think I can measure the hole.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #18 on: October 08, 2009, 02:59:26 AM »
Thanks for the compliment AZSAC Commander.

By the way, I just updated the review.  The updates are in green.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #19 on: November 10, 2009, 03:32:10 AM »
This review has been updated.  Updates are in Blue and green.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #20 on: January 14, 2010, 09:29:04 PM »
I just got the Inokatsu FN MAG58 to mount on my Iltis.  I managed to assemble the weapon no thanks to the bikini broad on the instruction sheet.

Mine came from Poweredgeusa.com but didn't come with battery and charger.

I assume the battery gets hidden inside the gas tube of the MG?

Is there supposed to be a battery that goes in the 100rd bandoleer hopper magazine? This one supposedly has a sound-activated mag tube feed.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2010, 03:10:55 AM »
Falldownjaeger

Unfortunately I have not personally handle an Inokatsu M240.  So I really can't tell you much about it.  The best information I found on the Inokatsu M240 is a review written on Redwolf http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ReviewDetail?reviewID=194  Have you contacted Power Edge USA?  I would assume that since they sold it to you that they should be able to provide some type of support for it.  

By any chance do you live in Hawaii?  If so, you can also go to Impact Games http://www.impactgamesairsoft.com/.  They are one of the oldest airsoft shops in the US and Grant and Tyler are one of the top masters gurus of airsoft.  They upgraded my Trigger Happy M240 and I have been extremely pleased with it's shooting performance.

By the way, how did you manage to mount the gun on your vehicle?  From what I've seen from pictures it look like the ammo box uses the gun mount holes on the gun to attach the ammo box.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2010, 03:43:09 AM »
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Falldownjaeger

Unfortunately I have not personally handle an Inokatsu M240.  So I really can't tell you much about it.  The best information I found on the Inokatsu M240 is a review written on Redwolf http://www.redwolfairsoft.com/redwolf/airsoft/ReviewDetail?reviewID=194  Have you contacted Power Edge USA?  I would assume that since they sold it to you that they should be able to provide some type of support for it.  

By any chance do you live in Hawaii?  If so, you can also go to Impact Games http://www.impactgamesairsoft.com/.  They are one of the oldest airsoft shops in the US and Grant and Tyler are one of the top masters gurus of airsoft.  They upgraded my Trigger Happy M240 and I have been extremely pleased with it's shooting performance.

By the way, how did you manage to mount the gun on your vehicle?  From what I've seen from pictures it look like the ammo box uses the gun mount holes on the gun to attach the ammo box.

Anything Inokatsu has seemed to be anything but short of amazing. Their new line of GBB M4's are a true 1:1 real steel deal on the externals.

Fox, Fantastic writeup and follow ups, keep up the good work, I Look forward to seeing more about the TH even though they are now discontinued.

On a side note, if anyone has the itch of getting an inokatsu, Let me know. I can't post the 'to the door' pricing because of MAP regulations but its much,much lower than you will see anywhere else.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2010, 12:54:33 PM »
Busta Cap

Thanks for the kind words on my review.  I plan to do add one or two more updates to it in the near future on the gear box and showing how to mount it on a vehicle and tripod.

From what I've heard, the TH M240 hasn't been discontinued but temporary unavailable according to a friend who tried to order one from Spartan recently.   I wonder if they were affected by the crack down on airsoft gun manufactures in China.

Echo-1 is supposedly coming out with one too but I think they have run into the same problem with China too.  From the pictures that I've seen it appears to be similar to the TH M240.

By the way, here is a Youtube review of the Inokatsu M240 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojN2KcPp4r0

I know Inokatsu has brought their prices way down to match the price of the Trigger Happy M240.  By the way, Busta, what's a MAP rule?

Anyway, from what I've seen, I think the TH M240 is better.  The only exception it that the Inokatsu M240 seems to have a more sturdier but heavier body.  The other thing that I'm not keen on is the ammo box.  It's bulky and not as clean.  The worst thing is the piece that attaches to the gun is the same hideous day glow light blue color as the gear box.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2010, 02:16:28 PM »
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Busta Cap

Thanks for the kind words on my review.  I plan to do add one or two more updates to it in the near future on the gear box and showing how to mount it on a vehicle and tripod.

No problem, If you need some help either engineering a mount of having it fabbed, again let me know, I can do this as well and my machine work is pretty reasonable.

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From what I've heard, the TH M240 hasn't been discontinued but temporary unavailable according to a friend who tried to order one from Spartan recently.   I wonder if they were affected by the crack down on airsoft gun manufactures in China.

I am an authorized dealer for both Spartan and Redwolf Airsoft, both confirmed that it is currently not in production, which probably means no more of them.

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Echo-1 is supposedly coming out with one too but I think they have run into the same problem with China too.  From the pictures that I've seen it appears to be similar to the TH M240.

Here is where Echo-1, madbull , socom gear (all falling under the same parent company IIRC) have done the right thing, they actually get licensing and trademarking. Such as the new m82 from Socom Gear. It's a big AEG, why is it $1k+? Barrett..

By the way, here is a Youtube review of the Inokatsu M240 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ojN2KcPp4r0

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I know Inokatsu has brought their prices way down to match the price of the Trigger Happy M240.  By the way, Busta, what's a MAP rule?
This depends entirely on what distributor and how many you are going through, but yes they are much cheaper to retailers than the TH. MAP is Minimum Advertised Pricing. It's a short way of explaining in legal terms, 'don't let us know you are selling this stuff so cheap!"

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Anyway, from what I've seen, I think the TH M240 is better.  The only exception it that the Inokatsu M240 seems to have a more sturdier but heavier body.  The other thing that I'm not keen on is the ammo box.  It's bulky and not as clean.  The worst thing is the piece that attaches to the gun is the same hideous day glow light blue color as the gear box.

Ah, yes the blue anodized wire harness/feeding tube. Why inokatsu did that is beyond me, they made a great replica, then adding some race gun to it..fail in my book.

If you want pricing on the inokatsu or any other pieces, please shoot me a PM or call my office number @ 480 389 4831
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #25 on: January 15, 2010, 02:30:41 PM »
Busta_Cap:
 Can you get the Spade Grip Adapter, Picatinny Rail Top Cover or the M240B Handguard?

 I found a real M240 Soft Mount, came off of a LAV25 or something..... Yes it does use the pintle holes used by the wierd bandoleer box hanger.   I can get an original GI M240 Bandoleer Hanger to hold the hopper instead.
 Here's a Belgian Iltis with the GPMG Mounting Kit, without an MG mounted:

 Here's an FN MAG58 mounted to a slightly different soft mount, this one with a single hydraulic cylinder instead of the twin springs:
 

 Give me a couple days to get a battery and charger.  My local shop never heard of the 11.1 v battery for use in this piece.  I'll do a review of the G-Pig, soldier slang for GPMG.  Also, sometimes called GiMPiG.
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #26 on: January 15, 2010, 02:36:47 PM »
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Busta_Cap:
 Can you get the Spade Grip Adapter, Picatinny Rail Top Cover or the M240B Handguard?

 I found a real M240 Soft Mount, came off of a LAV25 or something..... Yes it does use the pintle holes used by the wierd bandoleer box hanger.   I can get an original GI M240 Bandoleer Hanger to hold the hopper instead.
 Here's a Belgian Iltis with the GPMG Mounting Kit, without an MG mounted:

 Here's an FN MAG58 mounted to a slightly different soft mount, this one with a single hydraulic cylinder instead of the twin springs:
 

 Give me a couple days to get a battery and charger.  My local shop never heard of the 11.1 v battery for use in this piece.  I'll do a review of the G-Pig, soldier slang for GPMG.  Also, sometimes called GiMPiG.
who makes them?
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #27 on: January 15, 2010, 03:12:11 PM »
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No problem, If you need some help either engineering a mount of having it fabbed, again let me know, I can do this as well and my machine work is pretty reasonable.
Thanks for the kind offer to make a custom mount for the M240.  Your offer is very much appreciated.  However, my friend is a HMMWV and armory specialist and can make anything I need.

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I am an authorized dealer for both Spartan and Redwolf Airsoft, both confirmed that it is currently not in production, which probably means no more of them.
Oddly enough I just got off the phone with a friend in the industry and he told me that the apparent reason TH has stopped making the M240 was because they didn't have a license to do so.  He also mentioned that it appears that VFC is coming out with an M240!  If this is true, it makes a lot of sense since they already made the gear and ammo box for them.  My guess is that it will be identical or nearly identical to the Trigger Happy M240 with some improvements I hope.

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If you want pricing on the inokatsu or any other pieces, please shoot me a PM or call my office number @ 480 389 4831
Thanks, I'll definitely keep you on my list.  For now, I'm try to find a spare ammo box for my TH M240.  If you know where I can get one, please let me know.

Falldownjaeger, If you are interested in a M240 mount I can get you an H24-6 mount for about $875~$900 if you are interestedhttp://www.milsysgroup.com/machineGunMounts.asp#MGM10


 




Also thanks for your offer
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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #28 on: January 15, 2010, 08:52:49 PM »
I lucked into an M240 Softmount Cradle for $350:

I just have to fabricate the adjustable height tubing pedestal to mount it to.

That M240 mount you posted looks very similar to this Canadian rig, with travel arm:

Some Canadians told me they used a Sage International Mount:

I was quoted $1499 for this one.

I may wind up mounting the C6 (MAG58 on the rollbar) and a C9A1 (M249) for the co-driver.

The Belgians and Germans actually mounted M2 .50BMG on the rollbar:

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Re: Trigger Happy M240 Review
« Reply #29 on: January 15, 2010, 11:39:27 PM »
Here is my mount, detailed in a previous post -

Quote from: "Raith"
I figured I'd do a writeup with photos of my M240 vehicle mount.



The mount itself is the tan item.  The green object below is known as a universal pintle adapter.  It is not a tripod, but I have it there because it allows the setup to stand up on level ground for photography purposes.  The universal pintle adapter is what would usually be below any of the smaller (vs MK19 or M2) mounted guns.  It adapts the small pintle to the larger pintle found on most stationary or vehicular military mounts.  It also has a traverse and elevation adjustment bar on the back, but for our purposes, that mostly remains unused.



The square tube is the adapter between the M240 mount and the eagle claw mount, which has the small pintle.  The eagle claw can fit the front hole of the M240 or M249 as well, but would not allow for the ammo can or rear pin support.



Here is the ammo can/magazine on the mount.  You can see the BB feeder tube and adapter mechanism sticking out of the ammo can.  This slides onto the side of the M240 and provides it with BBs.  The shock cord and fastex buckle secure the ammo can into the M240 mount.





The interior of the ammo can.  This is simply the OEM magazine internals sitting inside of an ammo can.  The left side is sloped so that all the BBs feed.  You can see the magazine power hookup behind the feed tray on the M240.  I'm not sure what the total BB capacity is, but its tremendous.  Probably something like 12,000 BBs.



When it is all assembled, the BB feed tube is out of sight enough to be convincing.




It works very well, and I'm very happy with it.



M240 sitting in the mount without the ammo can.
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