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High cap or mid cap?
« on: August 03, 2009, 12:27:03 PM »
Just out of curiosity what do you prefer using and why? Ive been using high caps but I'm coming to the conclusion that they are a pain in the ass. So which do you prefer using in different situations and why? Was thinking about replacing all my highs with some 120-130 thermold p-mags or something along those lines.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #1 on: August 03, 2009, 12:33:28 PM »
I use standard/mid-caps because hi-caps are gay.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #2 on: August 03, 2009, 12:43:47 PM »
Quote from: "I Slap Fat Kids"
I use standard/mid-caps because hi-caps are gay.

As this is a question of opinion yours is not appreciated in the fact that there is no justification.  [-(

Anyway there are a couple of things that you'll realize using one or the other.  The choice should be pretty easy to make deciding on a couple of factors.  One being if you like the whole "REALISM" genre then the low/standard cap is for you.  If you know you've got decent control of your trigger finger and still like to me a little more milsim and hate the high cap rattle, the mid cap is for you.  If you couldn't care less about the vintage high cap rattle and don't plan on attending any LARGE events (LC, BH, etc) then the high cap or the mid cap could suit you.  It's a matter of priorities and wants in your personal rig.  good luck on your decision

P.S.  P-mags are smexy and I'd take the mid caps of them any day.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #3 on: August 03, 2009, 12:56:21 PM »
I prefer mid-caps, but I'm getting a little more picky on which ones I use. I have a couple G&P 130 round mids that I've been using and I've got a hi-cap as a backup. Lately my Mids have been jamming, and after I pulled them apart and had a look, I found that the 130 round mags are a "double-stack" setup, with bbs sitting staggered, next to each other. I'm pretty sure I overfilled the mags at one point or another and spread the internals just enough that the last few bbs (7-10) jam next to each other now. I'm switching to 80 round mids (G&G has clear internals for simplified troubleshooting too), due to the single stack setup (so much less to worry about going wrong.)

I don't like hi-caps due to the rattling when I run around, and the temptation to just spray like crazy and hope for a hit. I can't see using real-caps due to the fact that 30 rounds in airsoft will never be as effective as 30 rounds in a real gun. I figure if I have 2-3 bbs for every real steel round to compensate for the fact that I can't shoot through a bush even if I can see the target, and that wind affects the trajectory soo much more, I'm still keeping within the spirit of "mil-sim". Granted maybe 130 round mags are still too much for some events, and if that's the case so be it, but my AEG will never be able to match  a real gun, round for round, so I think it's a little silly to think airsoft should be limited round for round. I'm definitely against box mags on M4's and all that, but I guess I'm not a total purist.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #4 on: August 03, 2009, 12:57:53 PM »
Yah the P-mags are definitely sexy bitches and I think I have my trigger finger under control enough to make mid caps feasible.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #5 on: August 03, 2009, 01:08:05 PM »
Quote from: "PhaedrusZen"
I prefer mid-caps, but I'm getting a little more picky on which ones I use. I have a couple G&P 130 round mids that I've been using and I've got a hi-cap as a backup. Lately my Mids have been jamming, and after I pulled them apart and had a look, I found that the 130 round mags are a "double-stack" setup, with bbs sitting staggered, next to each other. I'm pretty sure I overfilled the mags at one point or another and spread the internals just enough that the last few bbs (7-10) jam next to each other now. I'm switching to 80 round mids (G&G has clear internals for simplified troubleshooting too), due to the single stack setup (so much less to worry about going wrong.)

I don't like hi-caps due to the rattling when I run around, and the temptation to just spray like crazy and hope for a hit. I can't see using real-caps due to the fact that 30 rounds in airsoft will never be as effective as 30 rounds in a real gun. I figure if I have 2-3 bbs for every real steel round to compensate for the fact that I can't shoot through a bush even if I can see the target, and that wind affects the trajectory soo much more, I'm still keeping within the spirit of "mil-sim". Granted maybe 130 round mags are still too much for some events, and if that's the case so be it, but my AEG will never be able to match  a real gun, round for round, so I think it's a little silly to think airsoft should be limited round for round. I'm definitely against box mags on M4's and all that, but I guess I'm not a total purist.

To be honest I'm not much of a purist but maybe that will change later. For now I'm just more concerned with convenience. The high's are just a pain in the ass to run around with a tac vest full of rattling mags and having to stop, wind, reacquire, shoot, wind....so on and so on. At first i was concerned about mids not being enough rounds, but playing the other day I noticed i only used maybe 3 high-cap mags, so I shoot a lot less then i thought I would.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #6 on: August 03, 2009, 01:36:10 PM »
My biggest problem is filling all my damn midcaps after a game. I have tried using quick- loaders, even a battery speed loader, and nothing beats the speed of open and pour of highcaps. Rattle is annoying though. SO!! I compromised and bought a P90! Which has large high caps! AND they don't rattle!  :lol:   However, I much prefer games where I use my mids, the problem is that I am often unable to compete with some idiot that has a $30 drum/box mag.  My mids, coming in at a nice 120-130 rounds, are very nice, I like the feel, and the sound/realfeel that goes with them (no rattle)

What I would tell you to do is browse the forum sale section, I got all my high caps and lows from there, and the consignment counter at gearbox, I have enough of both for each of my guns to make myself happy, and to be able to choose freely, which I want to use. (about 2 highs and 5-6 lows a gun) Just my personal opinion
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #7 on: August 04, 2009, 01:23:42 AM »
i'd say standards. mids tend to jam and break more than standards. some mids arn't bad tho.  i suggest you don't use hi-caps, being they are gay, and a hassle.  just buy a few of those 400 round speed loaders that look like m4 mags. i have 2 and i love em. Even at big ops like lc i didn't have a problem with only 5 mags....
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #8 on: August 05, 2009, 01:36:21 AM »
Quote from: "Twitchy Konigkeit"
i'd say standards. mids tend to jam and break more than standards. some mids arn't bad tho.  i suggest you don't use hi-caps, being they are gay, and a hassle.  just buy a few of those 400 round speed loaders that look like m4 mags. i have 2 and i love em. Even at big ops like lc i didn't have a problem with only 5 mags....
Ive actually been looking for a High capacity speed loader but the ones Ive seen all had bad reviews and trouble with jamming. Do you have a link to a site where i could get the ones your talking about? ASGI has some but they are the ones made by king arms and have horrible reviews.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #9 on: August 05, 2009, 11:18:02 AM »
Quote from: "dirtnapper73"
Quote from: "Twitchy Konigkeit"
i'd say standards. mids tend to jam and break more than standards. some mids arn't bad tho.  i suggest you don't use hi-caps, being they are gay, and a hassle.  just buy a few of those 400 round speed loaders that look like m4 mags. i have 2 and i love em. Even at big ops like lc i didn't have a problem with only 5 mags....
Ive actually been looking for a High capacity speed loader but the ones Ive seen all had bad reviews and trouble with jamming. Do you have a link to a site where i could get the ones your talking about? ASGI has some but they are the ones made by king arms and have horrible reviews.
I've been using the older MAG 90rd mags. They feed fine, they're cheap, and if you loose one oh well.
If your not sure if they will work with your gun buy one and try it out, they're under $10.
I also use the plastic pistol mag loaders for the exact same reasons as well as redundancy because
everything in airsoft breaks. Those are around 6 bucks each. This is what works for me.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #10 on: August 06, 2009, 04:00:43 AM »
Hicap advantages:
-Don't have to carry a lot of them
-Lower cost/BB capacity
-You can fill them more quickly/conveniently

Standards/Midcap advantages:
-Feed infinitely more reliably
-No rattling
-No winding
-With the time it takes to wind one hicap till it's gone, you can reload and empty several midcaps
-Actually still grasps the realistic concept of reloading when you mag is empty.  I don't know about you, but I like realism when I'm playing airsoft.
-Less expensive per mag
-Easier to fix/unjam when they have problems

I buy one hicap for each of my guns, not because I want to use them, but because I often let friends use my guns, knowing they don't have tactical gear to hold several magazines.  I think hicaps are just for people who are too cheap to use a better setup.

In my experience, standards feed much more reliably than midcaps... but I'm still too cheap to go all standards, so I use midcaps.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #11 on: August 06, 2009, 01:26:36 PM »
yea +1 with everyone ho likes mids that what i use now and i like them far more then high caps its like everyone says i know im gonna shoot all 80 rounds vs a high cap very ur gonna get like 30-40 and then wind,wind,wind, and u can shoot again

so for reliability and the awesome feeling of dropping and mag and slamming another one in just go with standard or mids there all good
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #12 on: August 06, 2009, 01:46:36 PM »
Quote from: "dirtnapper73"
Ive actually been looking for a High capacity speed loader but the ones Ive seen all had bad reviews and trouble with jamming. Do you have a link to a site where i could get the ones your talking about? ASGI has some but they are the ones made by king arms and have horrible reviews.[/quote]

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/ind ... ts_id=3271
these are the ones i believe I've ordered. I've had them since LC6 and they have worked fine. just gotta keep them maintained every once in a while. i love mine. i carry 1 to 2 depending on the op and carry like 5 mags normally.
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #13 on: August 06, 2009, 04:35:38 PM »
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I think hicaps are just for people who are too cheap to use a better setup.

This.  As a newcomer to the sport, I don't have any sort of setup, whatsoever, other than my BDUs.  So I have to use my hicap.  No sense in having mags in my BDU pockets.  It's hard enough getting car keys!
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Re: High cap or mid cap?
« Reply #14 on: August 07, 2009, 07:20:04 AM »
Quote from: "Twitchy Konigkeit"
Quote from: "dirtnapper73"
Ive actually been looking for a High capacity speed loader but the ones Ive seen all had bad reviews and trouble with jamming. Do you have a link to a site where i could get the ones your talking about? ASGI has some but they are the ones made by king arms and have horrible reviews.

http://www.airsoftextreme.com/store/ind ... ts_id=3271
these are the ones i believe I've ordered. I've had them since LC6 and they have worked fine. just gotta keep them maintained every once in a while. i love mine. i carry 1 to 2 depending on the op and carry like 5 mags normally.[/quote]
Great thanks, I will give them a try.
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