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« Reply #30 on: June 08, 2005, 01:12:40 PM »
Suit yourself then. Me, I'll take an M-16 over an Ak anyday.
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« Reply #31 on: June 08, 2005, 01:21:54 PM »
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Suit yourself then. Me, I'll take an M-16 over an Ak anyday.


  As the saying goes;  "Whatever trips your trigger."  ;)
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« Reply #32 on: June 08, 2005, 01:23:14 PM »
..Are we still talking about airsoft fake guns?

Why not discuss wound ballistics on the real firearms spot?
Eh, whatever.
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« Reply #33 on: June 08, 2005, 01:51:14 PM »
.. well, this is in the general AEG forum.. in an Airsoft forum..
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« Reply #34 on: June 08, 2005, 01:51:52 PM »
I will take an XM8, although it's critisized by many, It has a flawless design. There is an awesome article from last months issue of American Rifleman. You can beat the hell out of an XM8(yes more so than any AK)and it will rock out like no other. They completely submerged it in mud and fired it... I think the maintenance was something like every 80k rounds...

One of the best features of the XM8 is the recessed. self-leveling piccatinny system. Once you zero something, even when taken off it will stay zero'd perfectly as long as it is put back on the same point (S).
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« Reply #35 on: June 08, 2005, 04:11:55 PM »
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..Are we still talking about airsoft fake guns?

Why not discuss wound ballistics on the real firearms spot?
Eh, whatever.


(Frown) I was talking about airsoft guns.
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« Reply #36 on: June 08, 2005, 04:16:49 PM »
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But... It's french.

Heh, and it has the reputation of being the very worst gun ever made :)


Worse than the Enfield L85 series guns? Wow, that's impressive.
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« Reply #37 on: June 08, 2005, 04:21:23 PM »
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hehe, i'm sure M79_Grenadier could build that for you!


no. i wont even condone that! that gun was a piece of crap, my great grandfather served in ww1 and he thought it was a piece of crap. open magazine. why in the hell would you use and open magazine in a muddy enviornment? those things were so crappy in real life you couldnt interchange the parts from one rifle to the other. i respect the fact he sees it as a historical piece but that gun is a travesty.
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« Reply #38 on: June 08, 2005, 04:22:08 PM »
Pleas for the love of all that is holy, let's not start the M16/AK debate again, there is a very long one elsewhere on the forum from a from months ago.
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« Reply #39 on: June 08, 2005, 05:07:49 PM »
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But... It's french.

Heh, and it has the reputation of being the very worst gun ever made :)

Worse than the Enfield L85 series guns? Wow, that's impressive.


Cmon, the L85A2s aren't that bad....
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« Reply #40 on: June 08, 2005, 05:41:03 PM »
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I will take an XM8, although it's critisized by many, It has a flawless design. There is an awesome article from last months issue of American Rifleman. You can beat the hell out of an XM8(yes more so than any AK)and it will rock out like no other. They completely submerged it in mud and fired it... I think the maintenance was something like every 80k rounds...

One of the best features of the XM8 is the recessed. self-leveling piccatinny system. Once you zero something, even when taken off it will stay zero'd perfectly as long as it is put back on the same point (S).


You did hear that it is on hold because of overheating issues?  It does everything well on paper....but MELTS in the real world.  Yeah...great rifle...
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« Reply #41 on: June 08, 2005, 05:48:42 PM »
Lots of weapons have had those problems, doesn't mean its not a great weapon. I talked to two people, one was a Major, and the other was a Sergeant, and both worked in an armory. They said it is the sweetest weapon they have ever used, reguardless of problems. The only problem with anything now...is everyone finds flaws in it. So we make something new...that has a flaw in it too. Oh...it sucks, lets make something new...which ALSO has a problem. Its IMPOSSIBLE to have the perfect rifle.
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« Reply #42 on: June 08, 2005, 10:36:11 PM »
Well, even an acceptable rifle wouldnt melt in my hands.  Maybe thats just me.  

If its so excellent, why arent they being ordered? I dont see it doing anything much better than the M4, at least not enough to justify a complete change over of gear and training.  

Oh yeah...and IT MELTS.
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« Reply #43 on: June 08, 2005, 10:43:10 PM »
Its not like you fire one round, and it disintegrates in your hand, melting to your skin or anything like that. I haven't heard about this problem yet, but how many rounds does it take to melt the firearm?
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« Reply #44 on: June 08, 2005, 11:48:26 PM »
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Well, even an acceptable rifle wouldnt melt in my hands.  Maybe thats just me.  

If its so excellent, why arent they being ordered? I dont see it doing anything much better than the M4, at least not enough to justify a complete change over of gear and training.  

Oh yeah...and IT MELTS.
I can't see it melting...Unless fed 50k rounds nonstop or something rediculous...But then again, have you ever seen a LMG after a few hundred rounds?
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